Mohamed 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 WHY ? Magic already got spellshards, its OP to give them 30% spell damage ?!!!!! tb, pyro and any magic heros shamans do nothing for them if they got spellshards and Grimoire of power, we just go for tanky build to survive just fix this please Thank you Link to post Share on other sites
datfizh 38 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Shrunken Head: Am I joke to you? 1 If anyone wonders about my intelligence regarding this game, then consider yourself visiting this thread: Alternatively, visit this blog below to see the compiled version of the threads/posts I made on this Official HoN Forum:newerthbrainstorm.blogspot.com Link to post Share on other sites
devoautist 5 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 its a 60 cooldown item man, that costs like 5200 gold... wtf? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Safrock 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 There is nothing to fix, please learn about the game... Link to post Share on other sites
devoautist 5 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Idk... you rlly think a shaman that costs just 2k gold, will counter spellshards and grimmore (like 9k gold)? Wtf? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 So tb or anyone will warning u before using his spells to use ur shrunken head ? and a shaman with 2k dont counter spellshards with grimmore, anyone want to fix his KD now go for spellshards with grimmore GG the problem is if anyone got those 2 items if he surprised you with pk or invs or whatever ur chance is 0.001% Link to post Share on other sites
ElementUser 842 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) If only there was a new item that was introduced in patch 4.9.3 that protects against unexpected burst initiations/ganks against you... Edited June 8, 2021 by ElementUser 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 Aha u mean Adeve's Cloak, that's what I mean now we focus to go tanky build and cant carry the team. Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 Imagine Ravenor or pebbles or pyro a lot of heroes got enough highly magic damage and a good magic items that puffs there spells and there is no need for 30% more damage, its just all a bout I don't like the concept of "one shot kill" just please try to push the game to the team fights and not to a build for someone to go solo kills easy Anyway I am not a pro player so ur thinking 99.9% better than me so its okay to keep it =P Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 47 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Well if a pyro invests 10k+ gold to burst you down (pk+spellshards+grimoire) and you refuse to go any defensive item on a carry, then I don't know what to tell you 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Safrock 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mr`Cactus said: Well if a pyro invests 10k+ gold to burst you down (pk+spellshards+grimoire) and you refuse to go any defensive item on a carry, then I don't know what to tell you Sadly, he cant buy braincells in game. Edited June 8, 2021 by Safrock Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 @Safrock Sadly discussion etiquette and good manners cant buy it in real life =P, just players in HoN with your character makes HoN community one of the worst. Link to post Share on other sites
Safrock 2 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mohamed said: @Safrock Sadly discussion etiquette and good manners cant buy it in real life =P, just players in HoN with your character makes HoN community one of the worst. If you really think that people in the internet actually care about your opinion, you are really wrong my man. The problem of the HoN community is other issue. We can see that you are part of that problem, cause you want the things be like you want, and let me tell you something, that is not how games works. You think a balanced item that boost mgc damage is just broken, cause your brain cant work properly. Is a expensive item, if a Pyromancer got Shard+PK+Grimm, it means that he got the lead, if he got lead, that mean that he plays better than you or he's lane opponent. I mean he spend lot's of gold to get stronger. I've used words that you can understand. You can really cry everyday, make change.org petition, and grim will not change. You know what? Cause is good how it is. I've read this forum for couple days, and i just created my account, to reply basically, but i really admire the mods/staff of this forum, they are very polite whit people that doesn't how games works and got childish attitude. Like yours. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
w3wstarboy 7 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 How about make his invi cost mana at lv 0 ?? His scouting before creep spawn is OP Link to post Share on other sites
Ladonien 15 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 The only thing about the current GoP is that it is not a versatile item. It is awesome on some heroes like ThunderBringer or Zephyr but it is not that worth it on other heroes. I still think that GoP should go back to its legacy form (with some number tweaks that is). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whyzozerious 255 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Nullstone and Shrunken Head will literally counter TB and Pyro with grimoire and those two items can definitely be viable on any carry and still have room to buy carry items... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 @Whyzozerious We already buy Nullstone and Shrunken before 30% buff for magic damage, and those items make us immune for spells so why not make it grant 1000000000% bonus magic damage ? Fights not going in this way, the one who play with GoP will go for a heroe with no null or shrunken head so ? all the team will go for null and bkb ? I know u will say supports can go too with Nullstone and Shrunken and still have room to buy sup items... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 47 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mohamed said: Fights not going in this way, the one who play with GoP will go for a heroe with no null or shrunken head so ? So punish him for wasting all his damage on a non-core hero Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 30% is OP that's a huge buff man I don't know how u don't see this ? believe me I know we can counter 100000% magic damage (null,bkb.Cloak...etc) so what... Okay I will say it a again " I am not a pro player so ur thinking 99.9% better than me so its okay to keep it or even make it 100%" Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 47 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If your concern is only the damage done to you, then keep in mind that they could achieve the same exact number with a codex Link to post Share on other sites
Whyzozerious 255 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mohamed said: @Whyzozerious We already buy Nullstone and Shrunken before 30% buff for magic damage, and those items make us immune for spells so why not make it grant 1000000000% bonus magic damage ? Fights not going in this way, the one who play with GoP will go for a heroe with no null or shrunken head so ? all the team will go for null and bkb ? I know u will say supports can go too with Nullstone and Shrunken and still have room to buy sup items... Your first argument is pretty flawed. Because we have items that counter this and that, we should buff grimoire to "10000000000%"? Are you reading anything you're typing? How does that solve your initial complaint? You're basically contradicting yourself by saying "30% is OP" but 10000000000% is perfectly fine? No, supports don't get the luxury of getting nullstone and shrunken head. It's not their job to carry the game. Like cactus said, punish the player who went all in on a player without defensive items? Stormspirit can help you against pyro and TB if you're a support. Plus, you're investing your resources on damage items to kill one hero... So what? Magic armor and other things are also factors to consider. Also, if you let them get that much farm, then that's a team play problem for not shutting down the heroes that can flash farm? There's no perfect scenario where every game you'll come out with grimoire and spellshards and if you do, what's stopping the enemy carry with shrunken from killing you? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) you can see No.1 what he did with it @8:34 xD HoN Top 10 Best Annihilation (2021) #295 Edited June 10, 2021 by Mohamed Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 47 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 You should keep TB out of any comparisons atm since the hero got overbuffed last patch (he's getting adjusted next hotfix i've heard). Link to post Share on other sites
Mohamed 2 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 @Mr`Cactus No TB just attack range from 350 to 450 and movement speed from 300 to 310 For his ultimate he only got clear vision and true sight increased from 4.5 seconds to 5 seconds That's for sure not a hero over buffed, its all about GoP 30% Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 47 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 You forgot: damage on W increased, cast range on W increased cooldown on Q decreased Link to post Share on other sites
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