Jed961 2 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This is definitely not a carry item. The carry should be farming a lane, getting last hits, and scaling into the late-game. Buying this item drags the carry into early-game team fights and ganks which the carry has no business participating in. The carry does not need to be ganking in the early stages of the game. This item gains charges as you participate in kills, the sort of behaviour that a carry wishes to avoid early in the game. I think that there is no reason whatsoever for a carry hero to purchase this item. Link to post Share on other sites
hegelsohn 50 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It's not black and white. Item choices are also dependent on the enemies/lanes. Sometimes it's beneficial for the carry to join the team earlier. Sometimes he can pickup easy kills on lane. The item is cheap and provides damage and more important movement speed. A tarot for example can be easily played without proper farming items as she is also pretty strong early on. Same goes for heroes like nomad if played shortlane and if the enemy setup allows it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr`Cactus 12 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This item is a fine pickup on many carry heroes tbh Link to post Share on other sites
w3wstarboy 2 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just the cheap Firebrand with little stat, if you like agreesive play, this item is a well build Link to post Share on other sites
Froschbein 12 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 No, you are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
MacroHard 146 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 What is your point? If you don't think it is good, don't get it. Generally speaking, 2 high tier items and 3 low tier items is more cost efficient than 3 high tier items and 2 empty slots. It only becomes an issue when you start getting maxed. Too often I see people go straight for "good" items without first having a strong foundation. Toxicity breeds toxicity. Break the cycle. Link to post Share on other sites
Whyzozerious 211 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 This item is only good if you plan on participating in team fights earlier than farming the entire early/mid game. Wouldn't say it's completely terrible but it's not recommended if you don't plan to use what it's intended for. If carries don't plan on joining fights early then there's really no incentive to buy the item no matter how cheap it is. You're better off buying an astrolabe that has more uses but even then. Link to post Share on other sites
Radon96 0 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It can be a decent pickup on certain heroes, like for example Gemini, Benefitting from stats and chase potential. Link to post Share on other sites
Bronsolini 2 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It's often times a nice pickup on Monkey King. Also I like to pick it u on Flint to get additional movement speed and stats. Link to post Share on other sites
GiveUpBra 4 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) If you play solo q, a lot of times you will be solo in the safe lane vs 2 opponents, if you know you aint getting much farm, this item while joining the team for some fights can be a good choice Edited November 4, 2020 by GiveUpBra Link to post Share on other sites
Yuffie 13 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Okay... So what you're saying is... the carry should handicap the game to 4v5. Got it. I love afk short farmers. Link to post Share on other sites
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