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Hello friends, HoNest present new project, we developed a page where you will be able to find counter picks for a specific hero. Experienced players are helping us inserting data, 5 top counter heroes are listed with details explaining how and why that specific hero is countering.

We have entered a few heroes, and we are working on entering for all 139 heroes. If you have knowledge please contact us and help with the project!
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Added new heroes on date: Wednesday October 21, 2020

12 new heroes: Swift, Engineer, Oogie, Rift ... check these out : https://www.honestorg.com/heroCounter

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It's a nice project. I would also suggest including item counters to heroes. For example, nullfire counters Armadon hard because most of his damager is spellbase (spines). He has no auto attack damage without being able to spam snot or spines.

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21 hours ago, Poseidon said:

It's a nice project. I would also suggest including item counters to heroes. For example, nullfire counters Armadon hard because most of his damager is spellbase (spines). He has no auto attack damage without being able to spam snot or spines.

that is true for early or midgame, lategame when he has 30 armour, 15 magicarmour and 3.5k hp he won't give much of a shit about his manapool anymore since punching him will just stack up spines passively.
so that is only semi accurate.
what does work somewhat okayish is madmage armour as it grants a massive amorbuff (dont use too early) and dispells his damage stacks on spines.
but generally armadon is just one of those "ill sit here until either of us dies" heroes that don't have hardcounters per se (imo).

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nullfire is usually ok against tanky heroes, but armadon spells are really cheap so it doesn't really work.

Also why would you even want to counter an Armadon, hero that doesn't do much damage and is 3k HP, counter him by avoiding him, and kill him last in fights, don't initiate on him

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5 minutes ago, Diabetis said:

nullfire is usually ok against tanky heroes, but armadon spells are really cheap so it doesn't really work.

Also why would you even want to counter an Armadon, hero that doesn't do much damage and is 3k HP, counter him by avoiding him, and kill him last in fights, don't initiate on him

It's easier said than done to ignore something that is walking towards you to do chip damage/damage over time & that chip damage actually adding up over time. It forces you to eat the damage, do something about it, forcefully initiate on another target in the back (which may not be the best idea because not all teammates may be prepared or actually ready to take action when this happens). This is particularly true during a siege situation, because you do 1 of the above or back off even more & then let the tower/barracks take damage.

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Added new heroes on date: Wednesday October 23, 2020
 

--Soulstealer

--Keeper of the Forrest

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On 10/20/2020 at 6:53 PM, Diabetis said:

nullfire is usually ok against tanky heroes, but armadon spells are really cheap so it doesn't really work.

Also why would you even want to counter an Armadon, hero that doesn't do much damage and is 3k HP, counter him by avoiding him, and kill him last in fights, don't initiate on him

A great counter to Armadon is Succubus as she can Mez him for like 7 seconds and basically make him not a threat.

Additionally Spine Burst / Armadillo damage is countered with Smitten and the hero lacks a stun to help out allies in a 2v2 Situation.

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11 hours ago, Hubaris said:

A great counter to Armadon is Succubus as she can Mez him for like 7 seconds and basically make him not a threat.

Additionally Spine Burst / Armadillo damage is countered with Smitten and the hero lacks a stun to help out allies in a 2v2 Situation.

he does slow you until you inevitably start moonwalking tho xD

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On 10/23/2020 at 10:46 PM, Mosher said:

Nice work guys!

offtopic: succu is Bad Counter to armadon and nullfire together with spellsunder best counter to armadon imo

 

Yepp. As diabetes Said aswell - removing His mana (and regen) is the best way to deal with armadon. Once he is out of mana he is out of threat. 

 

Unlike what merryhonmas Said yes, its true in Early to mid. According to some statistics ive taken from API there is when armadon usually wins - in mid game. Right after finishing helm / shaman they push and win. IF they dont win they atleast took all outer towers and got a big lead even the mid cant kill the support it seems in the API after putting some Numbers in My automated Excel. 

So late is not really an issue. Then supporta Will have sunder, sand, he wont be able to run u Up as he can in mid game.

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Added new heroes on date: Friday November 13, 2020
 

--Parasite

--Legionnaire

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Oh Boy, we added two very hard heroes to play against, and this is how you should try to counter them

To read more about heroes that counter them : https://www.honestorg.com/heroCounter

1.Maliken

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2.Goldenveil:

Disadvantages

Weak against heroes mentioned before, who are able to clear a whole lot of trees and stun him for a long duration, making him more vulnerable. As well as tankier heroes like Cthuluphant/ Electrition, who Goldenveil will most likely not be able to burst immediately.

Advantages

Works well with an additional stunner, making the enemy target static, so Goldenveil can land clearer and does not miss his one opportunity. Works great as an offlaner, due to his mobility and the ability to hide well in the trees. He's very slippery, usually the support role does not own a hatchet or a spell that can reveal Goldenveil, and the core role won't be busy walking around, but farming. Only way is to force the support to purchase many blights, and by that time, you will most likely get enough XP to start roaming.

 

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Goldenveil gets hugely shutdown by split pushers who avoid conflict. Wild Soul / War Beast are both very tanky to deal with and very rarely show up until the endgame when they are unkillable. GV has a problem where if he cannot reset his Greedgutter his damage falls off by a ton, so heroes who don't fight often, who are incredibly tanky (Ra, Cthul), or are just difficult to kill in general cause him massive issues.

Additionally, heroes like Apex who pick up Arcane Bomb and can blast trees down with Q are also a massive problem for him. A lot of the tankier heroes that also wipe out trees give him cause for alarm as well.

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Added new heroes to learn 🙂 :

Magmus

--Stunners and Silencers can cause a quite big headache on a Magmus, as his team usually creates space and relies on his ultimate. So each time Magmus's ultimate is somehow ruined, it is a huge relief for enemy team, and for allies it is quite an issue.

--Good with heroes like Flux/Tempest/ Keeper that are able to stick up the enemies, so Magmus can get inside as many as possible for the highest damage.

 

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Learn more about heroes that are countering these 2 and much more: https://www.honestorg.com/heroCounter

 

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