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Can it be done in another way than ally being low on life and under the effect of a DoT?
Mesmerize works, but i cant think of anything else
In the extremely rare case where your ally is Puppet Show'ed by an enemy Puppet Master and 2+ damage instances occur on your low HP ally (where 1 of them is the Puppet Show'ed unit) and your ally gets the last-hit. Puppet Show is supposed to be non-lethal, but I have denied people like this a few times.
Blood Hunter's Blood Crazy works too I guess
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Tossing them with Pebbles can work too.
ok, but with physical attacks they have to under DoT for sure to deny them. Right?
Correct. (Or being puppet-showed, as Element mentioned)Originally Posted by krs_
Ok. Thank you all for the answers.
why did they make it so you can only deny under dot?
To prevent griefing
For situations like:
player A gets away with 30 hp, player B decides to deny player A and denies him in front of the pool.
Player A is pissed. End.
Accursed can deny himself with Catuerize.
Same with devourer and Rot
If pebbles toss's an ally who has like 10 health he will die upon landing.
Succubus can use mezmerize to kill an ally.
not sure what else atm too tired to think.
because it would be abused if you could deny when they are below a certain hp
I have denied players with normal attack. But did they change that?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ryodakun
oh lol, I like a lineup that can deny each other and themselves for the lulz
I wish you could deny Voodoo's cursed ground but since it counts as ticks of increasing magic damage does it count as a DoT?
No, some simple reading in this thread would tell you that it is possible to deny a friendly hero while he is below 10% hp and has a Damage-over-time spell on him with regular attacks
I'm pretty sure you cannot deny a hero under the effects of Cursed Ground. I think i've had this happen to myself a couple of times. Cursed Ground is a DoT, it has two-second-apart ticks, and seperate constant ticks iirc. Nevertheless, you cannot deny someone who is affected by it. (Need confirmation)
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Probably because most DoTs have
while cursed ground hasnt got any effecttype.Code:effectype="statusdebuff"
S2 didnt think about that at all, so you have to ask the guy who was updating dota then (Guinsoo, Eul or someone else, idk).
But the reason was something like this:
Orginally (in dota) you could attack always attack allies, because thats how it worked in warcraft 3. But because this caused alot griefing, a trigger was added that stopped attacks against allied units. But because you could deny your allies before, they decided to keep that feature but made denying harder so that every kill could not be denied.
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