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I would encourage you to dismiss the skeptics.
Try or , pretty much anyone with heavy harass.
If you play extremely aggresive from level 1 then he will back off and not get any last hits.
The downside is that you may have to change your starting items to play agaisnt bh.
I guess 1800~ players just think they're good enough to carry their way through matchmaking regardless of the circumstance, which is not really the case.
Played a rough game against a Pyromancer just now. Started with a bottle, and spell spamming was just too much on each creep wave for me to reliably last hit.
He didn't get far ahead of me, but it was a bit of a pain to fight off.
I find slither that maxes spit/poison can be a real PITA. but the best way like i've said before is 2 mid. Jester+Magmus (or any stunner) will completely **** all over BH
its been said a lot, but go conduit / discharge build and at level 3 just animation cancel him back to his tower with conduit.
War beast is a bad laner, so you send him to forest so you have two advantages : one solo lane and some effective farm on WB, but he needs his mana for his hounds and can't spam battle cry for the first levels.
War beast mid ? You don't need your mana for anything but battle cry, so you can spam it from level 1 to level 7 non stop.
Futhermore, you will get level 3 really fast, and battle cry level 2 is just begining to be awesome
All your lanes will get between +11 to +44 damage to last hit 3/4 of the time (CD is 25 and skill lasts 16)
And you will easily outlasthist / deny BH and your lanes will easily outlast hit and outdeny enemies. (Even glacius would be a monster with 70 damages at level 2 (wb level 3))
And if WB isn't the best ganker, he has really good damages so a DD, hast rune (before level6) or illusion (after level 6 for a combo with ult) or even invisy will do the trick with some minor help.
Whad'ya think ?
Last edited by Dashiva; 03-30-2010 at 10:01 AM.
I think I would put one point in primal rage at 2 for further last hit and to outdamage blood if he got you silenced ... and then one in hounds at 5 for combo with your ult. After that ... I would choose hounds over primal for farming/getting kongor at 8-9/pushing towers.
But against a good harassing mid you want one point in hounds at 1, I think ... and therefore there isn't so much interest in having him mid.
(EDIT : appart from denying every last runes with your dogs, so to counter the mister bottle-1rstItem-asMid guy)
Not too sure about that.
Last edited by Dashiva; 03-30-2010 at 10:47 AM.
My team made me go mid as plaugue rider Vs blood hunter.. I got bloodlusted and I got killed another time in the lane.. He got super beast after that got a mid game mocked and whooped us. They all blamed me for feeding, but really what can you do as Plaugue? I stayed back and tried denying with estinguish.. but I couldn't last hit at all. I nuked and auto attacked, but i couldn't deal enough damage. Any advice Plaugue Vs Blood? Or was I just auto scrwwed?
well some ppl may laugh now but my best heroes vs bh are pollywog and arachna
His cyclones will constantly annoy him and they will heal you back up too.
A good Pharao can get the last hits if he wants to.
Corrupted can spam conduit and get easy charges against melee heroes. It really annoys mid heroes, forces them back, steals their damage and buffs your own.
I'd say both Pharaoh and Deadwood are better at laning mid against ranged enemies. BH is seriously overrated, both in pubs and the few times you see him in competetive play. Ofcourse, there ARE heroes that he will usually have less problems against. I cant see Glacius or VJ faring too well against him, for example.