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    High HK but low CK- unavoidable at times?

    I only really see this in games where I am playing with more than 2 pub players. I almost always am playing with at least 1 friend.

    Do you guys ever find it difficult to keep your CKs up while always seeming to have to gank a lane thats not holding their weight? I seem to find myself in the situation at times where I have to leave my farm lane to go help someone else in another lane to avoid one of their players getting fed.

    General question,

    Is it acceptable to keep your HKS up with low CKS? Is it just unavoidable at times?
    Last edited by WillyDaSquid; 03-19-2010 at 10:56 AM.

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    It depends on your hero role.

    If you're a ganker, you should have low CK/variable HKs (ARE YOU FEEDING YOUR CARRY CORRECTLY? 8).
    If you're a carry, you should have high CKs. Always. HKs are completely dependant on your teammates at that point (and how well they setup kills for you). You can be 7-0-0 carry because enemies try to gank you and fail (Due to TPing in and awesomeness from your wingman), or you can be 0-2-0. Either way I'd expect you to be farming your ass off.

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    i like to think my CK is decent, just a few tips, If your playing a carry/ganker last hitting is more important that denying, alltho not by much. If ure going back to the fountin waste 90% of your health in the jungle just for more kills and gold, And if your playing a ganker especially dont just kill a hero in a lane then leave, stay in that lane and get a few kills while the guy you killed is ressing.

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    You've got high HKs, you get good gold when you do that, so what's the problem with low CKs if you already have gotten good gold from your HKs?

    EDIT:
    Wow I asked too late. What Meowshi said pretty much answers your questions, and pretty much made me realize that just now. Thanks for the tip mate XD
    Last edited by Jerada; 03-19-2010 at 11:23 AM.

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    Ah, yes. CKs problematic for heroes that are meant to be supportive / gankers.
    Solution:
    Glacius - Frost Nova (not Ice Block) - Provides AOE damage and AOE slow, better when you want to kill 2 heroes and not just 1.
    Wretched Hag - Scream of Pain (not Poison Strike) - Provides AOE damage (main source of Hag's role)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelillidan View Post
    Ah, yes. CKs problematic for heroes that are meant to be supportive / gankers.
    Solution:
    Glacius - Frost Nova (not Ice Block) - Provides AOE damage and AOE slow, better when you want to kill 2 heroes and not just 1.
    Wretched Hag - Scream of Pain (not Poison Strike) - Provides AOE damage (main source of Hag's role)
    Remember to clear creeps this way if your carry is unable to, you should always try to give the Cks to your carry and get just enough to finish your core (1-2 bracers,boots,Tp stones, wards).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillyDaSquid View Post
    I only really see this in games where I am playing with more than 2 pub players. I almost always am playing with at least 1 friend.

    Do you guys ever find it difficult to keep your CKs up while always seeming to have to gank a lane thats not holding their weight? I seem to find myself in the situation at times where I have to leave my farm lane to go help someone else in another lane to avoid one of their players getting fed.

    General question,

    Is it acceptable to keep your HKS up with low CKS? Is it just unavoidable at times?
    Creep Kills:
    43.9
    Creep Denies:4.4

    unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepia View Post
    Remember to clear creeps this way if your carry is unable to, you should always try to give the Cks to your carry and get just enough to finish your core (1-2 bracers,boots,Tp stones, wards).
    Yeah with Glacius I usually jack as much CK as I can to purchase my bracers, ghost marchers, then I set sail and roam for HK - the carry can CK all he wants at this point, I only need about 40 CK to play Glacius like a champ.

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    fav hero-

    CS- 44/4.7

    K/D/A 3.7/3.7/3.9


    seriously wtf do you do in a game? your not farming with that very low CS and your obviously not getting involved in the actual fight with that KDA. seems to me your the guy people have to take time out to help in lane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reonhato View Post
    fav hero-

    CS- 44/4.7

    K/D/A 3.7/3.7/3.9


    seriously wtf do you do in a game? your not farming with that very low CS and your obviously not getting involved in the actual fight with that KDA. seems to me your the guy people have to take time out to help in lane
    "All you have to do is harass their heroes so I can go godlike."

    Didn't you know?

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    Heh heh heh, I saw this and HAD to post it. http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/playe...hp?aid=1213731

    I honestly, in all my time playing Dota have never seen a CM with a record like this.
    3 Games played 70 / 51 / 94. That's ****ing epic.
    In regular HoN matches you don't even have a team score this epic.

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