whew thats what i like here everyones helping ;P to build a tut... for each heroes
nice tut dude every details was so clear,, thanks bro,
I think Panda is great. But in solo mid? how do you get lasthits without getting chased out of lane. Would love to se some mid replays so i can get a hang of it.
I love dual-lane cus getting first-blood and kills is easy with Panda in dual-lanes.
Well, Panda is a really beefy hero, and if you're opponent in mid lane is really harassing you that badly than chances are he's getting damaged by your creeps as well which equates to a MUCH sooner death for him(Level 4+ is EASY for Panda to score kills). Just stand back, and walk in only for last hits. I'll try to get a recent replay of him up ASAP, but it might take awhile as I've started playing WoW again. :P
Last edited by who8myrice; 04-13-2010 at 04:48 AM.
I've seen a lot of good Pandas make Nomes and HotBL on him instead of getting bottle and rushing Shrunken Head. Are they any good? What are your thoughts about this?
I always build panda to be a tank and initiator in games, and only get the bottle if there's not enough ganking force early game.
An item I've always found really useful, though unpopular, is the Barbed Armor. I can name a handful of times where I would Ghost Marchers + Cannon Ball into the enemy party, activate Barbed Armor, and watch them explode themselves.
If nothing else, do this when you're playing a pub game against the typical noobish Pyromancer or Witch Slayer, who throws their ultis at everything that moves -- it's hilarious watching them nearly one shot themselves!
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/m...p?mid=24740545 is a really good replay of Pandamonium soloing middle. His team loses due to an amazing Ophelia coupled with a good Adromina and farmed Chronos, but you will see a really strong start and a lot of epic cannon balls. (Seriously, this guy makes the most amazing cannon ball hits that it makes me attempt crazy stuff, only to epic fail.)
^ Of course, that would be Chu` haha! To bad the replay's outdated though.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I used this build the other day, it works great. I was surprised how much damage you can do with just your core.
A question though, what order do you recommend getting your luxuries? If you're not in desperate need of an initiator or armour reduction, do you just grab Behe's Heart then Riftshards?
The fun thing with Panda in a dual-lane, is that you can kill from lvl 2 so easy with flick, stun combo... The partner in lane does not realy mather just that he can do some dmg. But with pebb, pyro, WS its even big chanse to get dubble-kill.
But i will try some mid for the practis.
So if Panda is flicking he can't be OMG MESMERIZED? Or he will be OMG MESMERIZED but successful flick?
"The fun thing with Panda in a dual-lane, is that you can kill from lvl 2 so easy with flick, stun combo... The partner in lane does not realy mather just that he can do some dmg. But with pebb, pyro, WS its even big chanse to get dubble-kill.
But i will try some mid for the practis. "
Cant beat Electrician+Swiftblade
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wow this is a good guide, and all the feedback was pretty useful. Ive always steered clear of , was a bit intimidated by him... think i will now give him a try!
quick question, I followed your link to the replay on mid... but it says "coming soon" (even when Im logged in) so I was wondering where I could see it?
I was reading a guide earlier about soloing mid, but he has feast which would keep his HP up... So Im guessing would rely heavily on the bottle+PS for HP.
Again, thanks for the good work
And it's a yes and no to your question. Soloing middle as Panda will most likely 9 times out of 10 get you underfarmed creepwise compared to when you would go to a sidelane. Instead, you're relying on scoring kills as early as possible to ferry over your bottle, to further keep up your domination.
A Panda who's higher level than his lane opposition is never going to be pushed around, and if he is then it's just going to mean an even easier kill for you.
EDIT: OH HEY, I just tried the old replays and they still work. Neato. Now I don't have to uppdaaatee them <3
Last edited by who8myrice; 04-14-2010 at 03:22 PM.
Thanks for this guide very usefull... I'll be practicing with panda for now on and leave valk behind a bit and start learning to play with other heroes.