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    Why ventrilo? Use MUMBLE!

    It is a very common program in the TF2 scene, and i don't get it why everyone using ventri or ts instead of mumble.

    Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming.

    What is Mumble?
    Mumble is a voice chat application for groups. While it can be used for any kind of activity, it is primarily intended for gaming. It can be compared to programs like Ventrilo or TeamSpeak. People tend to simplify things, so when they talk about Mumble they either talk about "Mumble" the client application or about "Mumble & Murmur" the whole voice chat application suite.

    What platforms does it run on?
    The client, Mumble, runs on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.
    The server component, Murmur, should run on anything you can compile Qt 4 on.

    What makes Mumble better?
    Mumble has very low latency combined with good sound quality; it uses CELT and Speex, not just the voice compression technology, but also the voice preprocessing to remove noise and improve clarity. Mumble also has positional audio for supported games, meaning the other players' voice will come from the direction their character is in game.

    So basically, mumble has lower latency, and better soung quality than ventri and ts. It has overlay, it is opensource, it is free, really configurable and so on.
    http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Main_Page

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    Change sucks.

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    Mumble however doesn't have the name/reputation that Ventrilo has.
    Therefor, even if it is better, people won't use it.

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    Change sucks... why if its better?

    Kizetsu: Well, yeah, but isn't it sad? Mumble needs more users, coz it is a better program

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    I agree with you. I've always kept an open mind when it came to better products, and so far I'd have to say Mumble is superior to Ventrilo in most ways.

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    Why use voice chat programs for HoN when the game has an inbuilt one?

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    'Cause you're not relying on S2 servers, plus it sounds clearer in most cases.

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    so its suppose to be used for gaming..... it has very little support for games and the list of games it causes errors with is almost half as big as the supported games.

    it has little latency..... use a local vent sever you noobs.

    you are basically guaranteed to have echoing from some people

    people sound like robots

    no need to change your settings to suit that one guy, mumble normalises everyone for you...... o wait you can do that in vent as well, in vent you can also customize every single user individually, i can totally see why mumble thought gamers didnt want that feature.

    im a gamer, i want options, i want customization, i dont want that 12 yr old squeaky to sound so squeaky. i can already see why so many people use mumble..... o wait

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    it isnt used because it causes problems with games such as CoD4. Most people playing HoN would have DotA experience, they wont know about Mumble because guess what, it doesnt work with WC3.
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    Coming from the TF2 scene I love mumble and going back to vent from mumble is like going back to Dota after playing Hon, you wonder how people lived with it!

    Stay premium, gentlecolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate View Post
    it isnt used because it causes problems with games such as CoD4. Most people playing HoN would have DotA experience, they wont know about Mumble because guess what, it doesnt work with WC3.
    We played lot of WC3 with mumble. Only problem for CoD4 is overlay. disable it and it is ready to go.

    it has little latency..... use a local vent sever you noobs.

    Umm... lol?

    people sound like robots
    I talked with more then 100 people on mumble, and like 2 of them had robot sounds because of their **** mics

    im a gamer, i want options, i want customization, i dont want that 12 yr old squeaky to sound so squeaky. i can already see why so many people use mumble..... o wait

    Mumble has more options than ventrilo.

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    why are you trying to convince ppl you probably dont know and probably dont play with to use a program you think is better then the one they are using?

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    I'll vouch for Mumble myself, as I just switched from Ventrilo to Mumble.

    The latency gain from mumble is not from not having a "local server", since I've tested with hosting the server on my own computer. It's from (among other things I guess) the ability to use a shorter segment of sound than the default provided by your soundcard. I tested with both mumble and ventrilo in parallell, and even on mumble's max settings it were noticable less delay of sound.

    Not to mention the default codec used is Speex (which you can choose in VT as well though, but here it's default) and each client can choose its own bitrate and quality, it's not set by the server. As long as everybody spend some time in the audio wizard, all participants turn out nice and level aswell.

    Give it a try, or not
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    I used it for a bit.

    The "higher sound quality" is crap.
    In Ventrilo, you can increase/decrease the volume of individual users, allowing you to make sure that everyone you are talking with is easily audible.
    If you do this in mumble, they become staticy and garbled.
    Ventrilo, on the other hand, can flawlessly change the volume of other clients without losing quality.

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    I'm also a TF2 player... I prefer mumble by far when i'm playing a tf2 match, cus there's next to no delay. but i prefer the vent for HoN and random chilling when fast calls aren't AS important, cus i find the sound quality better...

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    Thanks for advertising, this actually I find useful.

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    Why MUMBLE? Use Teamspeak 3 !!

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    Almost no games have any issue with Mumble - if you find a game with an issue chances are that disabling the overlay will make it work as expected, since vent doesnt have an overlay by default they dont have these issues. I guess the overlay could just be disabled and you'd have pretty much. The same support as vent.

    The default settings actually use the CELT(newish, very very nice) codec rather than Speex, it will fallback to speex if you lower your outgoing quality. Vent forces all users to use the same codec that the server specifies, the number of people that have issues with non-speex codecs in it is pretty high.

    Mumble is also based on QT4 and a lot of standard opensource bits and bobs meaning that in a few months it should show up in some form or another on android or in the area that I see best, the N900... it could be quite interesting, a bit like irc for your local group of friends.

    The directional plugins make for a pretty cool experience - never thought I'd say it but its kinda nice for things like playing a co-op game with a few friends.

    All in all Mumble is a great app and its awesome to see it gaining ground - with more of this movement it will get better and better and focus more an more on gaming will only be good for everyone.

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    why change a working system?

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    Mumble is really good, use it!
    quality is good and latancy is low, the ingame overlay is also very nice

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