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Valkrie
Stats
Damage: 38-49
Armor: 1.80
Move speed: 300
Attack type: Ranged (600)
Attack rate: 0.59
Strength 17 (+1.85 per level)
Agility 20 (+2.75 per level)
Intelligence 17 (+1.65 per level)
SKILLS
Call
This is valk's first skill. It can be used to damage the enemy hero so your carry is able to get the kill or can be used as a nuke. You do not want to use this near creeps because it strikes random targets and if creeps are nearby, then it might hit the creep and will waste your skill. You can intend on using this skill on creeps to push the lane.
Javalin
In my opinion, this is valks best skill. With good practice, you will find out that your Javalin will do the most for you and the team. For team ganks, use this skill to initate the gank. One enemy hero will be disabled and hurt and it makes it easier for your team to win the gank.
{PICTURE WILL BE POSTED ON HOW TO CORRECTLY THROW THE JAVALIN}
Leap
Leap is best for running away or jumping to the enemy for kills or ganking.
Prism
If used correctly, then valk's ult will help you win matches. It's either you ult for ganking or ult when running. DO NOT use the ult for your own purposes because it would be wasted and your team would not like you. e.g -ulting only when you need to run and not ulting to save the whole team
STATS-
>If you specialize in the throw...
1) Jav
2) Jump
3) Jav
4) Call
5) Jav
6) Ult
7) Jav
8) Call
9) Jump
10) Call
11) Call or ult
12)Call or ult
13)Jump
14)Jump
15) Stats
16) Ult
17-25) Stats
> If you decided to nuke first
1) Call
2) Jump
3) Jav
4) Call
5) Call
6) Ult
7) Call
8) Jump
9) Jav
10) Jav
11) Ult
12) Jav
13) Jump
14) Jump
15) Stats
16) Ult
17-25) Stats
ITEM BUILD
Starting:
> FOR JAVALIN BUILD
x2
> FOR CALL BUILD
x2
x2
Depending on the game, you get different items but there are some items you MUST get;
-its either you get 2 or 3. you get 3 when you want extra damage early game but you most likely do not need to get 3.
-you could get this at the beginning if you would like to be less squishy but its not recommended because you could easily get helm of black legion a bit later for more HP.
-my new favourite (=
-you could get posthaste but it costs a lot more for +20 speed and teleporting
-one of the top items valk should always get. This is best for when ganking and team fights because it damages the enemy hero more which you always want.
Other important items you should get
>(late game) This gives tons of attack so treasure it.
>(late game) When i'm winning, I usually like to finish off my ThunderClaw and turn it into this.
>(early game) Pretty useful in the laning process
>(mid/late game) Good choice for helping your team in ganks and team battles. Also gives a nice amount of Agi for your stats.
>(late game) Best item for HP ever, as everyone knows. It's also quite expensive... 5.5k
>(mid game for icebrand and late for finishing frostwolf) Really good item with valk.
>(mid game) Nice item for speed and teleporting. No more Stones =D YE
>(late game-very late game) The Recipe to Godliness.
>(mid game) I usually get this for HP since its cheaper but its not recommended as a good choice for Valk. I personally like it though (=
>(early game) with the bottle, you will own.
Lastly, your best friends and haters
Friends:
>(his ult and slow work perfect)
>
(his hold) -and any other heroes who hold the enemy
>
(stun) -and many other stun heroes
Tips on how to throw the Javalin well will be made later.
Lastly, when carrying Valk, you really want a stunner so you can get kills easy. The best to lane when carrying is
. And when soloing, never solo with;
if you are learning how to use valk because you will get owned. Play in top or bot lane until you understand how Valkyrie works, then you can go solo. Once soloing, I advise you to get the bottle because after I tried it (read below) it because very useful and sorry for saying it has no purpose.
~Anizer
(if you have any comments, suggestions or questions, you are welcome to reply or pm me. Valk is my favorite hero and i have been using her for months so i have tons of experience with her)
EDIT: because of the advice/complaints of my bad choice of lane mates/enemies and items, I have removed a few items that are actually not needed with Valk and will add the lane-mates/not to lane with. I also decided to buy the bottle for once and found it actually REALLY useful. Sorry for saying that it was not useful before. It's now almost my favorite item (other than wards). About my Javelin throwing guide, every time I record my video, once I replay, it lags A LOT. No kidding. So i'm trying to find a way to record these videos. Pictures are OK but Video's show the "real" experience so.... big difference (=
More complaints people. I like them cause I can improve. TY All!
Last edited by Anizer; 04-14-2010 at 04:12 PM.
Guide to a good throw
Pictures + explanation
Situation 1:
At line 1, if you threw in that direction, the first unit you would hit would be the creep because it is closest to the javelin in a 140 radius.
Line 2 would be the best choice because it is most likely that hellbringer would move backwards or to the right. If so, your javelin would hit.
Line 3 is a REALLY bad choice unless hellbringer starts to move backwards and you throw later
Situation 2:
Looking at the minimap, Purple is Valk, the light grey (hellbourne) is Plauge and orange is Engi. At this time, Engi has almost killed plauge and plauge is on the run as valk appears.
You see plauge head back with VERY LITTLE hp. There is also a creep wave comming in which you DO NOT want to hit cause then he would get away.
Throwing at the first blue spot is horrible since the jav would be headed right to the creep wave. Throw 2 is also bad because the jav would hit the last creep at the end of the creep line. Though you would expect the creeps to move that fast, you are wrong is this is a common mistake when people throw the jav. *NOTE* If you are exactly 3100 units away from a target and a creep wave is comming in, position yourself so that when you throw, aim at the MIDDLE of the creep wave and also creating a line that hits the enemy hero. (Key word: MIDDLE) If close-medium range, wait for the creep wave to pass by or do not throw at all.
Throwing at the red is perfect. It is aimed at the middle of the creep wave which according to the top^ should hit the moving hero. If plauge decides to turn AT the creep wave, he would turn at the other end of the tower and the Pink (radius of jav.) would hit him.
ALSO NOTE THAT HE HAS ACTIVATED MARCHERS AND HIS SPEED AS BEEN INCREASED!!!!!
According to all those calculations, it seems like the jav would hit or closely pass by Plauge
gg.
Here is a secret to throwing.
practice
Last edited by Anizer; 03-17-2010 at 06:56 PM.
Sub par guide, with too big text. And it's JavElin, not Javalin.
I've found a good skill build to be
1. Jav
2. Leap
3. Call
4. Call
5. Call
6. Jav
7. Call
8. Jav
9. Jav
10. Ult
11. Leap
12. Leap
13. Leap
Stats
Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Reduce your text size.
Cookie cutter skill build, only absolute pros who-know-what-they're-doing should do differently:
1. Jav
2. Call/Leap (Call if you're being aggressive, Leap if you're being harassed)
3. Leap/Call (The one you didn't take at level 2)
4. Call
5. Call
Max out Call -> Jav -> 1 level in ult -> Leap -> Stats -> Points into ult when necessary.
That 'chicken' build is bad. Don't do it, don't promote it.
Regarding items, you NEED bottle early game if you plan to do any decent ganking. With proper rune control you'll be topped off on hp and mana for a gank every 2 minutes. Your 'starting' items are risky too, you're making her start with very little base hp. Minor totems > Duck boots early for HP, mana and a little damage.
If you have the gold, go for Post Haste. The mobility is invaluable. If not, go for Steam Boots. Start with strength for some HP and change them to agi for damage once you have about 1.7-1.8k hp.
Very often Nullfire blade can be the better first item. Gives you agi, mana burn + ability to purge an opponent.
Barbed armor is bad. You don't have the HP to support it. I dislike Elder Parasite as well - you're not a carry and you don't have the HP to support the increased damage taken backlash either. Mock is bad except in super late game - it screams 'FOCUS ME DOWN' to the other team, and you don't have the HP for that either.
Best item build IMO is Bottle + Couple Soulscream Rings -> Steam Boots -> Nullfire Blade -> Geometer's Bane or Wingbow.
Your comments on Corrupted Disciple and Night Hound give a very amateurish impression. Also Valkyrie should absolutely destroy Moon Queen in a solo lane due to attack range difference.
No guide on Valkyrie will EVER be complete until there is an extensive section covering her javelins.
Good luck.
Well, i have nothing to counter what you say so... About the guide to her Javelin, i'm working on that. Theres going to be videos and pictures for it.
Refuse to read guide when I have to scroll down every sentence.
Make font size normal.
I have returned
start with 2x duckboots, 2x minor totem, 1 healing pot, and 1 set of runes.
get bottle and boots by way of chicken and farm up Post Haste.
Travel around the map pushing and ganking. Your items should look like this: Post Haste, Bottle, 2x Soulscream rings, Power supply.
After which build an icebrand and make frostburn out of it. Win the game.
on a side note, valk is very versatile hero that more than one build can work, find the build that works for you.
Also find a good lane partner or solo valk + another stun = gg.
my skill selection is as follows:
jav,leap,jav,call,jav,call,jav,call,call,ulti,ulti ,leap,stats,ulti,stats+
Seriously, I stop reading after two lines of MUCH TOO LARGE TEXT!!! It's very distracting, you should really change it. Or just never write another guide. Whatever.
Smaller font :O
e-famous superstar and legendary hero of the Brazilian people kirbyruled, once the greatest mod that OT hath ever known, requests but a single humble beta key
cool enhanced marchers and no bottle.
hmm, i've been using valk for a long time and i had no need for a bottle. Why would i need it or put it in the guide?Originally Posted by Blessed_
I'd rather go
Javelin
Leap
Call
Call
Call
Javelin
Call
Javelin
Javelin
Prism
Call is able to do an additional 50% damage which means more nuke power if prioritised, not to mention it is AoE damage.
I have returned
This depends on if you like to call more or throw more in early game, how the game goes, and the items you have. Thats why i put 3 up and this one^^ is not bad (= But i'd prefer you at least put prism at 1 once you reach level 6 incase of the enemy ganking or your team ganking.
Call > Javelin at early levels because the damage from Call is certain, whereas you can miss with Javelin.
You can't gank properly without bottle. Period.
Whether or not you get Prism at level 6 is your own judgement. Do your teammates really need it that early or can you put it off another 2-3 levels?
i usually dont max out javalin until last. the stun is the important part, and it stays the same at all levels. and barbed/mock on valk? negative. and ghost boots are bad. you dont need an escape/chase mechanism, you have leap. what you do need is hp/mana regen.
also you cant really say dont lane with nighthound because he killsteals. thats like saying dont lane with pyro or witch because they can killsteal. your basically saying dont lane with bad players. bad players sometimes pick scout and nighthound, but this does not mean all nighthounds/scouts are bad. same thing goes for corrupted. and zypher too, gust could be bad if the zyph is horrible, but it can also push heroes out of lane into easier jav areas(no creeps). i find laning with owl to be awsome, because his tornados synergies well with a long stun, and a follow up gust will ensure death.
also, most valks who solo mid should be able to outlane moonqueen. with leap you can make it to runes first, and that bottle regen should mean you dominate. then again, your guide doesnt even talk about bottle at all.....
tl;dr bad guide that needs serious improvement. lets not even talk about your "chicken" build. encouraging new players to do that will only make them bad for longer.
I've learned that maxing call early is bad. Call doesn't hit them with full damage unless you're right beside them and there are no creeps. The Javelin uses much less mana and if you practice your shots, then you can hit well.
Very bad items.
-UPDATED-
(still terribad item choice)
Changed and removed items again. (= I'll be starting on my Javelin guide soon when I get to record things without lag.
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