Reposted this in the strategy section after the one in training grounds got locked
So for defiler, which is the better item? Item recommendations say frostfield plate, but im still uncertain.
Frostfield Plate (4700 gold)
- Gives you an extra nuke
- Gives you near unlimited mana
- Lets you farm much faster
- Slows down enemy heroes and carries
- Good for pushing creepwaves
- Doesn't really help any of your other spells
- No aura support
- No armor reduction
Daemonic Breastplate (5550 gold)
- Supportive armor and attack speed aura for allies
- Attackspeed bonus makes for easier/quicker attack animation canceling
- Good for pushing towers
- Synergizes with other physical dps heroes
- GREATLY increases damage of your ulti (via aura armor reduction)
- Gives no mana/mana regen
- Doesn't stack very well with other Daemonic breastplates
- No slow/nuke
- 850 gold more expensive
So which one do you think is better in general?
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A teammate can get Daemonic and share its benefits. In every possible situation I can imagine, Defiler would want a Frostfield. She is not an autoattack hero, She wants mana and she wants mitigation. She is not a support hero, and a proper hero (like Pebbles or Maliken) can get Brestplate.
Frostfield benefits Defiler much more than Daemonic.
Yup, well said. Frostfield makes wave of death that much more spammable, and I cringe at how you say there is no aura on frostfield. The AoE IAS/MS slow is and aggressive team oriented aura, and the nuke is just icing on the cake with your ult. Like above said, she's not an autoattacking dps. She's a team oriented pusher/nuker.
frostplate doesn't help farm or push unless you're spamming on creep waves, which is TOTALLY pointless. you're defiler you have a 5 sec nuke.
your "cons" are also ridiculous. you can't say they're "cons" just because they lack a certain quality.
its a comparison between 2 items, not a con.
and frostplate is the better choice here, but kuldra is obviously the best choice.
Frostfield is obviously better for Defiler, though I'd rather go 2 Bracelets + Nome's + Post Haste/Greaves + Headdress instead.
Demonic Breastplate's +Attack Speed is wasted, granted that the -armor is useful for her ult, it pales in comparison to the snare that Frosifield gives. Not to mention +30 int is pretty damn nice.
Frostifield gets my vote
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Bloodstone/stormspirit -> behmoths heart
Then frost usually, although demonic is great if the enemy team has any -armor
why would you go either when you can buy just the 10 armor a lot cheaper? (do you really have that much money to blow? if so get a sheepstick instead)
though if it's just choosing these 2, obviously don't pick the frostplate if the opponent team has magebane.