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I really wish I read these posts before i played HoN ...Now I'm getting better but my STATS is horrible. I'm actually very new to this type of game entirely ( never played DOTA) so when people kick me out from a server room, I begin to wonder why. Even though I was extremely improving through reading these threaded posts, my STATS remains WEAK and horrible because I just play for fun and die for fun. I didn't know a record was being recorded. Makes me mad thinking about it. Pernamence kills.
I find this Basic Guide ok for noobs. I follow it and it does help in a way. Thanks.
Awesome guide, thanks. I will try to denoob myself
This might've been mentioned earlier, but no mention of harassing?Your skills are weak early on, and it takes many hits and spells to kill a hero. It is best to conserve your mana.
Great guide, helpt me alot.
Thanks for the advice. This pretty much helped me out, and made me better. But i'm still a n00b. Haha. I just pretty much don't know what items to get for certain types of heroes.
Maybe you could help me out with that?
Thanks again
-EvilDumbo
quoting the most important part of the guide. In a typical scenario I'm some late game agi that already have an hard time early on avoiding getting killed while farming while desperatly trying to push our own lane back towards our own tower. Meanwhile some ranged new guy is working against me by auto-attacking, the amount of kittens I've killed due to this is immense.Originally Posted by Kaution
Overall a pretty nice starting ground for new players although I thought the classification into agi/str/int should have been left out as it tricks new players thinking of them as a group just like your "role" section (which was better). There's int tank's and str casters etc so it subtracts instead of adds to the guide.
Maybe look at youtube for dota videos of last hitting but by autoattack it goes something like this:
melee hero: stand out of melee range from the creep and press hold, rightclick or 'A' to get the last hit OR constantly walk around in the general area (less obvious). Your timing will improve with this over time and later on in hard lanes when you stand half a screen off then just go in for the kill then back off you will be glad you practiced.
ranged hero: walk around constantly then A or rightclick to last hit, make sure to be aware of your autoattack range.
If you're not close to your own tower, as soon as your creeps get to 50% start attacking them with 'A', most of the time you still want to last hit enemy creeps aswell though.
also another good quote from the post "good newbie hero"
rule of thumb is agi heroes is weak early and dominate late if farmed well, most competent teams will have 1 agi in the entire team (while many pugs you see have 2-4 because they all saw that one good *insert random agi hero* that dominated lategame), if you pick more there's a very good chance you'll be ran over early-mid and never recover OR (if it's against an pusher team that don't stab you so often) all concentrate on farming then waking up realizing that the other team allready won. Leave the agi to someone that knows how to farm and avoid ganks and whine if your team takes more than one. Feel free to try all of them but these few easy ones is a good start due to survivability and/or because their abilities/utility is easy to make good use of.
Last edited by Jo; 08-01-2009 at 02:19 PM.
love this guide wish I saw this 2 months ago :P
Well i really loved this guide - it helped me start after i already played a few games. I evolved my own style now, but it helped a lot to know the basics - to be able to experiment and try things out. Though i read this guide the 4th time now - and i advice other beginners to read this guide more than once ... every time after playing some games. You WILL understand more and more of it and develop quite fast =)
thx again for the guide.
Great Guide, It helped me a bit. One ting i noticed, that I thought was incorrect is that you said Devourer is a support? I think hes only thought to be a support because he ganks. He should be in the ganking section, instead of support IMHO.
just like to point out that madman is also a stunner, but nice!
This explains so much to me. I don't feel as lost now. I see a small light but it is still far.
Great read. Thanks a lot.
Okay... so it says you get XP from 2/3 of the screen. Does this mean if I up my resolution I will have a larger area i which I will gain XP?
I think what Keitaru and this author have compiled are comprehensive, thorough, and thoughtful. Thanks guys for all your hard work.
Pest is mislabeled, he's a great carry
~"You promised me, Scout, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I have noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there has only been one set of footprints in the sand. Why, when I needed you most, have you not been there for me?"
Scout replied, "The years when you have seen only one set of footprints, my child, is when I carried you."~
Great guide - I've read this and others to get more info - alas I just went headlong into a game without training first, and my apologies to the teammembers suffering from it...
I've now tried a few private games to get a feel for the different heroes, and will continue a bit untill I get better at it
Thanks for this.
Hopefully now I won't get so chain-ganked by my "friends" who have played DotA tons and think its funnier to just kill me game after game rather than teach me to play lol!
I think a lot of these 'really bad noobs' are used to intuitive games that teach you as you go, whereas this game has a very steep learning curve (well not as bad as EVE but still pretty steep). It has multiple heroes, multiple abilities, multiple items, multiple paths and it can be overwhelming at first. This is probably made worse by having a bad player who feeds doesn't just affect the guy who is dying, it affects the whole team.
just my 2 cents
I want to add that if you're an incredibad player then you need to play support, never pick a carry. That way even if you die in a team fight, as long as you were able to cast your spells then you already did your job.
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