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    like the storyline, nvr liked left click mmorpgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archedgar View Post

    Okay, the MAJOR problem I have with that abysmal "Ending" is that it ignores everything that was established in WC3. That is, Arthas being separated from Ner'Zhul along with his death, but even more than that... WHY DID THEY PULL A "there must always be a lich king" OUT OF THEIR ASS?!?

    Here are the facts:
    Ner'Zhul was indeed the dominant power of the Scourge, but he is NOT the Scourge, he is not an absolute.

    Ner'Zhul as the Lich King had Lieutenants(Anub'Arak, Kel'Thuzad, Arthas himself) which controlled their own sections of the Scourge(See Warcraft 3 and TFT Undead campaigns), this fact already contradicts the "The Lich King IS the Scourge!!!" implication. To make matters worse, Sylvannas Windrunner also had her own sect of undead which broke off from the Scourge/Lich King and turned into the Forsaken, which worked out fine for them.
    What would prevent those lieutenants to go apesh*t once the Lich King was dead? Of course they want there to be a lich king to control the Scourge, or it would screw all of Azeroth.
    Quote Originally Posted by cutievirus View Post
    i wish i could kill them in my eye....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archedgar View Post
    Once again, the above quoted works against your theory, not in favor.



    Yet again, the above quoted is based purely on WoW butchering the lore as it has no mention in WC3 or WC2.



    Uh, no, if anything it proves that the "Ending" to the Arthas storyline is even more retarded.

    The end of TFT clearly states that Ner'Zhul and Arthas merged to form a new Lich king, I keep telling you, that it was FIRMLY established that Arthas and Ner'Zhul ceased to exist and they formed a new entity "Now we are one".

    It had NOTHING to do with the physical helmet, at least not before WoW came along.




    There is so much wrong with the above quoted that I don't even know where to start.

    (Long lore related rant coming)



    Okay, the MAJOR problem I have with that abysmal "Ending" is that it ignores everything that was established in WC3. That is, Arthas being separated from Ner'Zhul along with his death, but even more than that... WHY DID THEY PULL A "there must always be a lich king" OUT OF THEIR ASS?!?

    Here are the facts:
    Ner'Zhul was indeed the dominant power of the Scourge, but he is NOT the Scourge, he is not an absolute.

    Ner'Zhul as the Lich King had Lieutenants(Anub'Arak, Kel'Thuzad, Arthas himself) which controlled their own sections of the Scourge(See Warcraft 3 and TFT Undead campaigns), this fact already contradicts the "The Lich King IS the Scourge!!!" implication. To make matters worse, Sylvannas Windrunner also had her own sect of undead which broke off from the Scourge/Lich King and turned into the Forsaken, which worked out fine for them.

    Now...

    Do I even need to explain why Arthas being redeemed is completely retarded? I don't think that requires an explanation really.
    it should be noted that Sylvannas was only freed from the lich king because of circumstances
    when the lich king was weakened a deadlord freed her from his will
    had their been no dreadlord involvement she probably would have been rebound to the lich king when he regained his powers

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    lmfao i can't believe blizzard removed the video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA29HFLOADI
    new link, updated first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShootinPutin View Post
    What would prevent those lieutenants to go apesh*t once the Lich King was dead? Of course they want there to be a lich king to control the Scourge, or it would screw all of Azeroth.
    how would a leaderless army of scourge screw over azeroth any more than a scourge army with direction??

    couldn't they just kill the lich king and then, say, kill the scourge army and then not have to worry about them any longer? wouldnt designating a new leader mean that the scourge army could now be directed again and potentially grow??

    no, blizzard pulled this "has to be a lich king" bullshit out of their ass. then they decided not to explain it. GG WC story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanus View Post
    how would a leaderless army of scourge screw over azeroth any more than a scourge army with direction??

    couldn't they just kill the lich king and then, say, kill the scourge army and then not have to worry about them any longer? wouldnt designating a new leader mean that the scourge army could now be directed again and potentially grow??

    no, blizzard pulled this "has to be a lich king" bullshit out of their ass. then they decided not to explain it. GG WC story.
    As DarkNecrid said before (I think it was DarkNecrid) a Scourge attacking everywhere would not only be a general pain itself, it would open up for others who hold a grudge towards either the Horde or Alliance to attack as well. It would be chaos.
    Quote Originally Posted by cutievirus View Post
    i wish i could kill them in my eye....

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    Well apparently the fight is really,really,really epic lore-wise.. But not challening at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShootinPutin View Post
    As DarkNecrid said before (I think it was DarkNecrid) a Scourge attacking everywhere would not only be a general pain itself, it would open up for others who hold a grudge towards either the Horde or Alliance to attack as well. It would be chaos.
    so, couldnt arthas just have unleashed the scourge to do that very thing, and then come out on top the victor? did he not see that that's exactly what would have happened? won't the horde and alliance see the scourge still amassing as if they had a leader and be like, "hmm... i thought we killed the lich king? why are the scourge not running rampant?"

    did arthas miss this crucial strategy that could have ended up with him NOT dead? i still don't understand.

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    Yeah
    Ner'Zhul was basically omnipotent
    He KNEW Arthas would be his champion, and later his host from day 1
    How did he not see the Alliances plans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidekick View Post
    Yeah
    Ner'Zhul was basically omnipotent
    He KNEW Arthas would be his champion, and later his host from day 1
    How did he not see the Alliances plans?
    Drugs.
    Quote Originally Posted by cutievirus View Post
    i wish i could kill them in my eye....

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Blastin View Post
    Well apparently the fight is really,really,really epic lore-wise.. But not challening at all.
    Yeah it's not challenging at all that is why only 2 top guilds have done it so far, 35 people out of 11 million. (derp)

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    So many mad nerds/ex-WoWers ITT, with all the needless hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testknight View Post
    So many mad nerds/ex-WoWers ITT, with all the needless hate.
    And haters gonna hate.
    Quote Originally Posted by cutievirus View Post
    i wish i could kill them in my eye....

  15. #75
    So many mad nerds/ex-WoWers ITT, with all the needless hate.
    I like to see when nerds rage about WoW on youtube comments

    This is.. wow. I'm so happy I quit.
    woot me too

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    LOL!

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    They should've made Warcraft 4 instead of this crap

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    Arthas sucked and deserved his crappy death.

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