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So for those who can't remember or cba to go find the patch notes, here's what they did to rampage:
Rampage
- Stampede cooldown to 25s (from 40s)
- Favor of Sol cooldown to 60s (from 75s)
- Fixed order queue being cleared by a Horned Strike
So with these huge cooldown reductions is ramp a significantly better hero than he was before? I like that I can charge at a lane, assist a gank and then immediately go and charge another one.
No he is not.
_____________________Originally Posted by dreamex
he is still **** :/
Cant really do anything early game, only mediocre ganker at best, and is a worthless carry. His form of stuns are what really ****s him up, they arent instant and doesnt stun for a long period of time. He has no real scaling abi besides his stun, which proc rate only is around 17% i believe. Probably abit biased, but generally speaking he is still _bad_.
Put EP on him and he will stunlock. Also don't use stampede to get a stun.
I would say he is an 'ANTI-CARRY' instead, as well as an initiator and a ganker. Sometimes Elders Parasite is a good choice if you are focusing the carry/ disabler and they are lacking hard disables. But usually shrunken will be enough for him to keep one or two heroes stun locked during a fight. Maybe get a Geometers Bane instead of Elders, if the farm allows it... Oh, and SoTM really is a nice touch if you would like to afford two ultimates in a team battle. =)
I can see Rampages usefulness in some lineups (public), where heroes like maliken and predator needs to be brought down, but generally he is just a bad pick for a player who doesn't have a clue about Rampage's role in the team.
"worthless carry"... Really?
I would never put him in the 'CARRY' cathegory at all...
When you ulti someone that person is hit by a lvl4 Horned Strike, stunning that hero for 1,55 seconds, while you continue to whack him with a 17% change of continuing the disabling. Chances are you will proc a fair amount of Horned Strikes on the target while damaging him a lot. With Rampage you need to target the right heroes AND buy the items that counters that specific line up...
Last edited by Cordial; 01-14-2010 at 04:58 PM.
He still sucks. I raped him in two different games last night. I'm sure the skill of the player had something to do with it, but there are SO many other heroes that are much better than him.
GL HF
if there is no disc stat i'd instaquit a game if my teammate picks rampage.
this is so true, so vaaary vaaary true.
Proc rate is at least at 17% regardless of rank which is sort of nice
i guess
he's still bad
the problem is:
rampage is a carry or a semi-carry believe it or not. He is usually initiating and ramboing to death. Carries shouldn't die, but while he always put himself on the line. Therefore the concept of rampage is bad and which is why people flame the **** out of you if you pick him.
I don't think he has any regular features of a semi carry. He also can survive ramboing if he gets his BKB and his teammates are willing. Though his best job by far is beating down other carries. Initiating by him can only be done if he decides to build for it, this means that he'll build for survivability but has more issues with the opponent's carries and can't really deal with them.
If build for it he is the king of 1v1, if he has the ability to fight a magebane/madman/nighthound/scout/chronos uninterrupted by the opposing team he will win for free. It won't matter what these guys use, they will have to fall back or they will die. And if they happen to get silenced, they can't fall back either.
oh while we're here I got the funniest bloodlust the other day.
Met their tempest at the top rune
Rune spawned... haste
I had lvled might of the herd and grabbed the haste rune before tempest could
Tempest had lvled elementals so basically couldn't do anything to me
Chased him down with the extra damage as a % of my max movespeed and just orbwalked him to death in about 7 attacks.
Rampage is a pubstar.Early mid game dominates in damage,get him steamboots + frostburn + behemoth's heart and he's awesome.Seriously.He works wonders in pubs.
it's all the worse to have a rampage in your lane, because he takes your cs and that money is most likely a complete waste and lets him suicide/be useless earlier.
allthough he is somewhat better, he is still the worst hero in-game imo.
Just reducing his cooldowns wont make him a better hero, as he only has single-target spells
Obviously you guys havent seen a good rampage player? I can dominate with him....
I like elder or armlet + shruken head
I agree that most people suck with him though
your stats say otherwise
Stats don't win you the game.
Any carry takes the creepkills, rampage is no different in that aspect. That's why you put a babysitter in Rampage's lane that doesn't need items to do his job. This is basics. Only from level 6 onwards you can expect him to become more active.
the point is that he is a terribad carry.
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