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Thread: Whispering Veil - Support Alternative to Whispering Helm

View Poll Results: Would you like to see this suggestion implemented into HoN?

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  1. #1

    Whispering Veil - Support Alternative to Whispering Helm

    Whispering Veil



    Components
    :HelmOfTheVictim: 950
    :RefreshingOrnament: 603
    :RingOfTheTeacher: 525
    Total 2078

    Stats
    3 Agility
    3 Strength
    3 Intelligence
    2 Health Regen
    5 Armor
    .65 Mana Regen

    Passive: Aura of the Veil
    Grants 1 Mana regen, 3 health regen, and 3 armor in a 500 AoE.

    Active: Whisper
    Dominates target creep. 300 Cooldown. 75 Mana cost. Shares a cooldown with Whispering Helm.

    Uses

    Great for Ophelia as she doesn't get wasted lifesteal and damage, but instead retains precious armor and health regeneration while granting a very useful aura to her creeps and teammates. Most support heroes can also opt for this item as it grants their teammates auras they may need, allows them to have disables ala minotaur, purges, nukes, and other useful abilities with good microing. Most importantly however, if you have a they can focus on farming while you stack creeps for them without wasting gold on a whispering helm. This also allows them to opt for an Elder Parasite or other lifesteal item that could be more useful to them given that they already have stacked creeps.



    This is not an amazingly original item. I am not promoting the creation of boring but effective items, but i personally believe this would definitely change the metagame and help quite a few heroes in a way that most of the community would favor.
    Last edited by Blarfles; 12-27-2009 at 12:51 PM.
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    hmm i would nerf the mana regen down to 1, im pretty sure ring of the teacher gives .65 regen right? and 1.5 is currently like glacius's highest level aura (or one below it).

    and i assume the aura stacks with the base stats for yourself? if so 2 mana regen for you is cutting it close 2.5, ehh a little much

    Otherwise looks good

  3. #3
    Nerfed mana regen to 1, 1.65 for the user.
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  4. #4
    that'll do

    you already got my yes vote

  5. #5
    Bump.
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    I like it.
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    i have no problem with the item, but it seems very similar to vlads, nearly same price/items required, v.similar abilities... I think this overlap my hinder its ability to make it into HoN
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    Bumpybump
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  9. #9
    Nice. It's a good concept. I voted yes.

  10. #10
    Don't we already get enough grief from the heroes that really benefit from creep stacking? I see where you're going with it, but I've always viewed a Whispering Helm as a tradeoff, kinda like Midas, in that you delay your core items but increase your gold income. It would have an impact on the metagame, yes, but I don't think a positive one. Easier gold farming with carries means more turtling.

  11. #11
    I voted no because i dont feel this needs to be put into the game. No one gets lifesteal on any of the heroes you suggested, and no one should even get life steal on any of those heroes. I feel this is a completely useless item that no one would use or buy.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Andylong View Post
    I voted no because i dont feel this needs to be put into the game. No one gets lifesteal on any of the heroes you suggested, and no one should even get life steal on any of those heroes. I feel this is a completely useless item that no one would use or buy.
    I honestly hope that you misread the first post or are joking.
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  13. #13
    nope bad suggestion

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by notcreative View Post
    nope bad suggestion
    Will try to fix it along the lines of your useful criticism.
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    Sounds good, voted yes

  16. #16
    you need to add a shared cooldown with whispering helm
    else it could get too powerfull on our beloved beast ***** ophelia

    just forgot:
    i misslike the aura,
    so many aura items in this game already :X
    proabaly change the aura to something only summons benefit from in an certain aoe?

    would make it very nice on some heroes and still being viable for supporter
    Last edited by Azurus; 12-26-2009 at 04:20 PM.

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    Your signature got me here, and i really like the concept of the item.
    You're also very close to popular i noticed.
    Voted yes.

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    I voted yes. I always thought it was a little odd Ophelia needed an item that is mostly useless.

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    Voted yes as I'd really like something exactly like this for Ophelia. And it will be more useful if more summoning heroes (like a Furion port) are put into the game.

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    T-UP, I like support items that give a little hp regen AND armor.

    Edit: How about this icon for it?
    Last edited by Idiotic; 12-27-2009 at 12:20 AM.

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