Flying courrier killing eyes

[Drakk]

So yeah you can use the logger's hatchet with the courier to kill eyes really quickly and easily and it seems very abusive.

also i dont know if it should be able to carry a gem for ward hunting I guess its not as abusive but it seems pretty strong even tho it costs 1.1k gold

[[S2]ElementUser]

It's not abusive...Crows can do this in DotA as well. Besides, you have to invest 625 gold to do this (and you have to micro the crow even more now since you can't detect eyes on the minimap anymore). Flying Courier's vision range is very low already.

I don't believe Bound Eye works on couriers

[Drasha]

They don't let it carry gems any more.

here is the balance thread for this issue mechanically its fine
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...ad.php?t=52752

It's not abusive...Crows can do this in DotA as well. Besides, you have to invest 625 gold to do this (and you have to micro the crow even more now since you can't detect eyes on the minimap anymore). Flying Courier's vision range is very low already.

I don't believe Bound Eye works on couriers

The difference in DotA is the Tree Eyes when placed correctly are a hell of alot harder to spot than KotF's ones, which are bright and glowy orange. Even without the minimap icon they are ridiculously easy to find with a hatchet courier or other methods. A well thrown arrow from Valk can reveal multiple eyes.

In addition to this, not only are they visually so much easier to spot but you can HEAR the stupid things. If you get close enough the soundfile starts playing, if I hear birds chirping I mark the point on the map and bring the courier around when I've got some down time.

IMO Rootfellen's eyes > KotF's eyes, and this should be changed. Rootfellen's eyes are harder to place thanks to needing them to blend in, but they're also alot harder to remove. Remove the visual aid, remove the soundfile that plays (at least for the enemy), and turn them into a tree that needs to be planted.

[[S2]ElementUser]

Then that issue belongs in Balance.

On a side note, KotF's eyes are much easier to place than old Rooftrellen's (you no longer need direct sight on the tree to place the eye on it) and the new Rooftrellens (2000 cast range vs having to place a tree directly on top of yourself).

Feel free to move the post.

And personally I'd take harder to place eyes over eyes that get cut down every 30 seconds. It's not like KotF is in much danger when moving about the neuts anyway.

[[S2]ElementUser]

Can't, mods aren't allowed to move to Balance. You have to make a new thread there....they screen every thread.

Closed!