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Blockk out picked The Forums.
The Forums out picked Blockk.
Meh, he'll still need to get chronos to a good level to be of full use but I agree that it's something to watch. If he does do this we can just grab someone to concentrate just on him.
Yeah I figured you would :/ There isn't a huge disadvantage in this pool I can think of like 4 line ups that would be decent against 10 others (replace numbers with logic).
Can theory craft again since finals are done for.
Don't want to edit post.
He'd have to pick CD+ Range stunner (
or
) and then he can move onto Voodoo
, blacksmith
and chronos :chro:. I mean you could take voodoo
next, but it isn't a great choice as all the ranged stunners (minus
possibly) won't fit in (from what I remember). What this translates into is a cleverly masked way of getting all of his picks. Can happen, as I double we'll pick Chronos :chro: or black smith
, only voodoo
would be a possible grab. His 2nd pick would have to be voodoo
and blacksmith
. Still I doubt he'll go Chronos :chro: (for some reason) but if he does at least we can screw his plan up marginally as it'll be easy to spot.
Lastly, I refuse to part with my abuse of the icons!
Last edited by Zethos; 12-19-2009 at 11:46 PM.
hero pictures in paragraphs makes my head hurt.
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Yea, in long posts like that, don't use Hero pictures please. We all know who the heroes are without you having to put a picture of them in, it's quite obnoxious.
EDIT: After reading below, I like the sound of a pebbles fp.
Last edited by Garyoak; 12-20-2009 at 01:36 PM.
Now that I think about it Hammerstorm is probably an awful fp.
But I still don't like Madman. 4-5 heroes can fill his role in that pool and they're all on the same tier. Picking one of them fp gives him the advantage, although he might have an advantage regardless.
i dont get why people are talking about madman soloing mid when there are still pyro, pebbles and arachna in the pool.
btw, i'm not talking about the first pick. i mean that people here discuss the lanes when the heroes of both teams are still to be picked.
also i doubt he will go chronos when we first pick madman, because there is arachna in the pool, who can rape madman at level 6 and consistently gank him, so he has no or little late game potential.
what pebbles offers us:
-initiation which this pool lacks
-disable
-massive amount of burst damage in a pool with many squishy heroes
-ganker (and becomes a very powerful ganker if he has portal key and ring of sorcery)
-hp
what madman offers us:
-disable
-ganker
-rune control, which is worthless if he is not going to be mid, because he will counter us with one of the above mentioned heroes
-late game potential, which can be shutdown by quite a view heroes that are still in the pool
thats why i voted for pebbles. but the real problem with first picking madman is, that arachna is still in the pool. i dont expect him to pick arachna with his first two picks since we already have a carry and we need disables, which arachna doesnt offer. that leaves us pretty vulnerable and he can still pick her with his 3rd, 4th or 5th pick. arachna could shut down our madman in teamfights too. after the initiation she could throw the spiderling at him, pretty much disabling him for a few seconds with the immense slow.
if the forums really proceed and fp madman he will pick a double stunner lane, most likely one of them being pebbles (reasons were mentioned above) and the other one would probably be torturer or pyro.
Last edited by ph1l; 12-20-2009 at 12:24 PM.
I was gonna pick Pebbles earlier, but, I wasn't sure if it was going to be worth it since everyone was going to freak out about Madman. But, whatev, I'll go with Pebbles regardless. No reason to pick Madman since he can snipe that last good babysitter in the pool, Voodoo, immediately after we pick.
Madman
@ above, [FFS] laned madman with hag against WHP (well, not really, levent was roaming with madman early game a lot, but still). Also, madman+torturer or madman+pyromancer aren't that bad either.
Plus, madman can solo mid if needed so he doesn't need that much babysitting. The only problem with madman is arachna, but I think it's still worth it for some reason.
Last edited by Namtar; 12-20-2009 at 03:20 PM.
usually later in the day.
gl though forums blockk's gonna get armadon electrician swiftblade predator and chronos
good luck outpicking that!