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What do you think is probably the worst hero right now?
I'm pretty sure that it's Devourer.
I can't image ANY lineup where devourer can't be replaced by another Hero doing a better job than him.
Well, maybe there's 1 situation where he might be a valid pick.
That would be in a BD-Game with mostly Melee-Heroes available AND only a few stunners AND Jeraziah in your team. And that will never happen imho.
His laning is so weak. Any "normal" lane (Like 1-2 ranged with stuns/nuke. I don't talk about publanes like Nighthound/Armadon or other even worse combos) will keep him away from farm or kill him. Even with a strong lanepartner on his side. And so he will reach midgame without gear and has no chance to grow fat enough lategame.
That's what usually happens when I see Devourer picked.
Other heroes that are pretty useless (imho) most of the time because of better substitutes: Armadon, Rampage, The Dark Lady
- it's not about pubs here -
Casual Mode
I'd say that the worst overall is Slither. He's decent in like the first 15 minutes of the game, but since then his effectiveness quickly drops to zero.
A good devourer mid can hurt, but it generally only works against weak solos.
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Rampage is worse then devourer.
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One of the best initiators and Chase heroes in the game ?(his hook, anyway) he has the abillity to kill himself, stopping heroes gaining gold. I don't think he's the worst hero in the game, there are worst in my opinion.
I'd say rampage, because of the fact you can have pestilence instead, who is all round a better hero. Ovbiously rampage has 3 stuns i think, if you include his passive. He has a movement speed buff. which is meh. His chase is counterable, unless you are on low mana, in which case a friend could probably help. But in-terms of laning early game rampage has high damage, but a slow IAS which doesn't really matter if you last hit/deny properly, but makes him useless in pushing other things. He can also get harrased easily.
Also, you mentioned the Dark Lady, i don't think there are any carries which can neccesarily replace her late game. Sure she's fairly hard to farm up, without the other team harassing you, but if you can she is undefeatable, with her silence, her charging strikes, her slow and her lvl 6. She's pretty much a true carry at end game.
Wretched Hag, I feel so weak and completely useless when I (random) pick her
^ 2 post above
so which hero is worse
Bear in mind EM players a lot of int heroes (such as hag) may look like **** in EM but can roflstomp hardcore in non-EM.
I'd have to say Slither, other heroes can just do what he does better.
Slither, Hag, and Rampage are all better than Devourer.
Armadon is worse.
Devourer isnt worst, hell he aint even weak. Underrated hero.
He's one of the worst heroes in the game. He's good at killing bads, but many other heroes outshine him in that role.Originally Posted by Chosenary
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Are you serious?
Without his core up he's far far away from being one of the best gankers.
What about: Pharao, Behemoth, Magmus, Valkyrie, Slither, Wretched Hag, Pebbles, Panda, Pyro, Bloodhunter, Glacius, Pollywog etc etc etc etc
These are good gankers that don't need any special gear to do a good job.
Devourer without boots, Headdress and Bottle is nothing. And besides that he will get outleveled easily and dominated by pretty much every common solo-mid hero.
As I already said. Against any serious lineup he is nothing.
And those videos say a lot, not.
And no wai! Hag is a really good hero since the buff.
Tons of burst AOE damage, great runecontrol, great ganking and a build-in blink.
How can this be worse than Devourer O_o
And yeah, Slither is not as good as Venomancer was in DotA and I just donno why. Must be the different metagame.
But he is one of the best lvl1 gankers in HoN.
Lane him with Swiftblade and you got a solid strong lane.
Casual Mode
Blacksmith. Sure hes fun to play and what not but in a serious game you can't reply on complete luck
Mainly for me its the But I don't want to get killed problem. The solution is apparently growing two balls and gunning straight into the middle of the other team, do or die style, let loose all your spells, and then port out when it gets too hot. With team support of course
Last edited by El_Nab; 12-14-2009 at 06:11 AM.
Slither and Devourer are 2 heroes that I'm totally not a fan of.
Slither just doesn't scale good (which is quite impressive for any agi hero) and in general DoT-heroes aren't that potent when you got other heroes that can deal nearly the same amount of dmg but instantly.
Devourer IS a potent hero (though as mentioned about 5x as strong in bad pubs) but the main reason I don't like him is because he rather relies on you fighting bad people and he's probably the most useless hero in the game if the person doesn't know how to play it, and since he's actually quite skill-heavy due to his hook, his dmg combo's etc. it more often than not means you just go 4v5 as soon as Devourer comes into play.
That said, I'm not a good Devourer, I've only played him once and hated him, so I'm not all knowing about the guy either but I do get his general idea at least!
And Armadon isn't really a worthless hero, the main issue with him is that he can only be build as a tank, and a hardcore one at that, with his damage being rather low. He is most certainly not worthless though.
All things considered regarding Devourer, the MOST USELESS hero vote would really have to go for Slither.
Quite Honestly, finding a "Worst Hero" is kinda moot in a game where everyone has their niche. (EVERYONE)
Devourer: That hook can REALLY mess up a team if you have an invisi char to scout ahead (scout/nighthound/rune/shroud) or wards, making a 5v5 teamfight 4v5. Yes he can be replaced easily with the likes of kraken, but still a decent hero. Also his str gain with right teamfights and ganks is damned amazing. Ive had pretty great success on a shortlane combo with him+pebbles as far as laning. Grab, one two punch+rot=dead almost anything. Again, hes a 2nd rate kraken, but not bad.
Dark Lady: Yes, madman is better. But when it comes to teamfights and BDing (shut up, its viable), her ult is damn awesome. Combine that with a reliable silence and a psuedoblink and shes pretty damned good.
Rampage: Ok, you got me there, hes very meh. FAR above devourer on suck list.
Slither: Dear lord his ult hurts, and his wards help a LOT when pushing. Map awareness is the number one advantage in games. With spammable 20 second wards, he is best played as a midgame ganker. Lategame, you help save pushes with wellplaced wards. USE THE WARDS, they're the reason to pick the guy when playing. (Of course, dont use slither vs blink initators such as kraken, just a bad idea.)
Hag: What the hell are you smoking? Shes amazing. Nuff said.
Last edited by shibbidydoo; 12-14-2009 at 06:21 AM.
Pubs: BlackSmith, Slither, Ophelia
Competitive: Scout, Nighthound, Rampage (and many more)
Ophelia and Rampage.
Ophelia is probably the worst.
Any good player can easily counter Ophelia's jungling and an ophelia without jungling is close to useless.
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