Pebbles

[Padawanabee]

I was wondering, if you chuck a creep on top of a hero while he's taking dmg from stalag, does that do double dmg?

or do you really have to chuck the person you want double dmg to take?

Stalagmites will only deal 2x to the one in the air from Chuck.

[[FUP]Gredenko]

Should consider adding Codex as one of his recommended items. Because sometimes, chasing just isn't a viable option, but you really do want the kill on the bugger (like say... you wanted to ninja kill Jereziah right before a team fight).

[SilverStars]

I laughed unnecessarily hard at the "You rock" pun and the after-Chuck pose pebbles did.

Anyway, is it necessary to queue up chuck after stalagmites if you want to do massive damage signature combo or is there a small time frame where you can do it?

[Padawanabee]

Shift-queuing Pebbles combo doesn't work as well as it would if you used the spells on your own. You just have to Chuck (on the right unit) as soon as you can after using Stalagmites, which shouldn't be hard if the enemy has been stunned.

[[fray]RogerDodger]

Skill build is wrong

You should be getting Chuck maxed at level 7 (1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1) since at level 7 maxing chuck first gives more benefits.

• Chuck does 90 more damage in the "wombo combo" at level 4 while stalagmites only gives 80
• Chuck is better for harassment due to the lower CD and higher rarnge (if you have a regen rune for example)
• Chuck's range increases and stalagmites' doesn't

[frickendevil]

Nice guide, except I despise people who build the mana ring on him first, considering it costs as much as the blink stick, and blink will get you more kills. Especially as advice for pub players who aren't great farmers, getting blink at level 13/14 means you are losing a significant amount of what would have been easy kills.

[Padawanabee]

Updated with the retail changes to Nomes.

I now fully advocate simply going bottle->Steamboots (int)->Portal Key, since both Nomes and Arcane are silly items to get on Pebbles.

[[S2]ElementUser]

Erm...

He is a perfect port of Tiny, from DotA. Every number and aesthetic choice is exactly the same as his DotA counterpart.

Craggy Exterior > Slab Skin

:/

For Chuck + Stalagmites:

This has the added bonus of both holding them down near the allied damage dealer, and getting the Stalagmites/Chuck double damage bonus.

You have a 0.05s timeframe to get the double damage from all 4 ticks - near impossible in a real game. Realistically if you can Chuck to ally, chances are he'll be >500 units away and Stalagmites takes 0.2s + travel time to impact, so the most you'll realistlcally get is 1-2 instances of Stalagmites doubled (not even - usually 0 if you toss greater than that distance)

Also, where's my Codex? Gogo NA instagib style.

EDIT: And what's this?

Your goal in your lane is to obtain 2200 (2800) gold in the first 10 minutes. Yes, that can be hard to do. That's why it's a goal. With this money you will buy Marchers and either Ring of Sorcery or Nome's Wisdom, based on your preference. Once you have boots, mana regen, and 3-4 levels in each of your nukes, you go ganking, and you do nothing but gank for the rest of the game.

Blasphemy for both items IMO

[Padawanabee]

I never noticed the first part, I'll change that. Though to be fair, neither skill is all that memorable.

Ah, I did miss a nomes mention. I went through it really fast since I have to fix all of my guides, thanks.

[[S2]ElementUser]

I never noticed the first part, I'll change that. Though to be fair, neither skill is all that memorable.

It's just funny in DotA when you're trying to land that last hit on Tiny

*stun*

*Tiny gets away*

[Meuhtrog]

Awesome guide, it makes me become a good pebbles !

[GregerMoek]

Funny build I saw in a pub that actually worked.
+:Portalkey:+:ElderParasite:+:Hellflower:+:Harkons Blade:+:Steamboots:+:Riftshards:rank1.

I like your guide though.

[[fray]RogerDodger]

When will you update the clearly inferior skillbuild.

[Padawanabee]

I don't get Chuck at 7, and I'm not going to suggest it in my guide.

[[2B4U]GodStopper]

I preffer Chuck at lvl 7 because u can do more damage if the target doesnt die with ur combo Chuck has 12 cd and staglamites has 20 so 300 damage, 1100 range 12 seconds ill take that lvl 7 and chuck lvl 3 does 260 and lvl 4 does 300, its 40 damage the difference. and 80 since u think u can land ur combo perfectly.

[Sorreah]

Battery + bottle combined with Steamboots for abusing stat switches provide more than enough mana until you have your Portal Key.

You're a caster and it's stupid IMO to build items with a focus on dealing melee damage. Depending on how the game is going, get Frostfield Plate (rush the +10 armor component, complete this whenever you feel the need to add another 200 dmg to your combo), Behemoth's Heart, Sheepstick, Codex if they didn't go for magic armor, Mock if you don't have a carrier for an increase in your combo's damage.

[[fray]RogerDodger]

I don't get Chuck at 7, and I'm not going to suggest it in my guide.

Give me a good reason as to why you wouldn't, if this is a premium guide you should see to it that the information is accurate, and chuck being maxed first has every benefit over stalags being maxed first.

[Sorreah]

Give me a good reason as to why you wouldn't, if this is a premium guide you should see to it that the information is accurate, and chuck being maxed first has every benefit over stalags being maxed first.

If the guide writer stays on his lane up to level 7 with a lane partner (not uncommon for Pebbles players, who want to maximize their combo damage before roaming), realistically he will only have mana for one of his skill, and if you're only going to use one skill to get a kill with a lanemate, stun makes more sense, thus you'd want to maximize it's damage.

Even though I think you're right, I can see the arguments for the other side.

It's such a small difference anyway, not worth arguing over.

[[S3G]AdolfSlither]

You need to max your stalagmites first, then chuck, 1 lvl of ult, passive and stats all way down

[TheHammer3]

Who else was saying to themselves 'yeah, good advice haha' right before they read the 'durr hurr good advice in the guide itself'?