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Barbed armor was changed in 1.60 to:
- Barbed Armor will now return damage from a Pseudo Pet or Gadget to the owner of the pet instead
This works for:
- Engineers turret.
- Arachna ulti.
- Forsaken Archers skeletons.
This does not works for:
- Pollywog priests wards.
- Defilers ulti.
- Voodoo Jesters ward.
Now fix.
Sylla and warlock both have regular pets so that shouldn't return to owner. I think.
Am I missing any?
Last edited by Tisser; 12-16-2009 at 10:39 AM. Reason: Ninja edit
Defiler's ultimate are pet.entities so I assume Barbed won't reflect it to Defiler. Different story for Voodoo Wards though
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i think defiler ulti returns, barb should reflect -sandwraith,arachna,pollywog too?
Sand Wraiths are illusions.
Voodoos ward doesn't work either!
voodoo's should work though,
The voodoo jester's ward is invulnerable though, so that's as it should be... And it shouldn't reflect onto the jester 'cause he isn't the one doing the damage, technically.
Imo pollywog priest's wards shouldn't get the reflection either. Or defiler. Wards and ghosts are just like that, secondary damage sources. This is the case in Dota too, afaik.
Just shut up if you have no idea what you are talking about. In dota Krobelius spirits, Rhastas wards ect. have marker ability and because of that the damage gets reflected to hero insteadOriginally Posted by ToxicMonkey
so if engineer leaves a turret lying in the jungle can kill engineer by walking up to it and activating barbed armor?
Yes.
Although he can just deactivate the turret, use the 15 seconds to run to tp to well and get allies to go gank you.
Do they for sure return in DotA? Really?
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Yes. From http://www.playdota.com/forums/4099/...tem-abilities/
Dummy unit in dota = Unit with marker abilitiy. And as you can see from here, krob ghosts have that. And from same page you can read that rhastas wards have that, witch doctors ward has it ect....If it was called because the unit was damaged, then if the damage is between 2 and 3000, the damage source is non-allied and non-structure, then if the source is a hero or a non-dummy unit, then do (1), else do (2).
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(2) Disable this trigger. Make the Blade Mail wielder damage the hero of the dummy unit's owner for the EventDamage with Attack Type Hero, Damage Type Magic. Then enable this trigger again.
Last edited by Jotain; 12-17-2009 at 02:45 PM.
I noticed the thing about Defiler not taking return damage from Barbed in this as Krob would absolutely get eaten alive by blademail in DotA.
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I'm not sure about Pollywog and Voodoo Jester.
But, I'm sure that Defiler is bugged, since Death Prophet's spirit did damages herself when enemy got Blademail.
So yes, please fix.
I got it against pollywog because I just assumed it would work... should probably make it clear what does and doesn't reflect it back to the owner.
A long time ago, back when Soul Reaper had just been ported, I successfully destroyed an enemy Defiler 1v1 as Pharaoh by singling her out right before a teamfight. I can absolutely, positively guarantee that it worked back then.
As for now, I'm not sure. Tomorrow afternoon I'll boot up the game, and test each one of the things you listed in the OP and post the results here.
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