what is true damage

[Meowmeister]

some skills deal "true" damage can someone explain what that is to me?

[[SYD]Sukari]

Damage that really hurts you in real life.

It's damage that ignores armour (armor) :P.

[Distort3d]

There are different types of damage.

Magic spells usually do magical damage
A few spells and ALL regular attacks are physical damage.

Armor reduces the physical damage taken.
Magic armor reduces the magic damage you take

True damage is is not reduced by any type of armor

[Secron]

Example:
You have 1000 hp.
You get hit with 300 true damage
You now have 700 hp.

If it was normal/magic damage, it would get reduced by armour/magic armour respectively.

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

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Damage usually is typed, which means it is reduced by its corresponding armor and prevented by its corresponding immunity.
True damage is typed " ", which means it does not correspond to any resistances nor immunities, and therefore will damage everything for it's said amount.

[KARTlK]

True damage is stopped by magic immunity though.

Unless there's a distinction between Pure and True?

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

Jeraziah's inner light was probably what you were thinking of. That is magical splash, not true. I don't know of any true damage skills that have superior casting types, hemorrhage cannot be cast on magic immune units.

Pure damage was attack type hero damage type fire, the fire part being negated by magic immunity. There is no damage in dota that ignores everthing.

[KARTlK]

I mean you can't cast heartbreak on a hero that has magic immunity can you? Just because it's true damage doesn't mean it's not affected by magic immunities.

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

Heartbreak has target type magic. If it were superior magic, it would deal 300 damage to the target.
Read the thread. Target type cannot be cast on the corresponding immunity. Damage is reduced by resistance and negated by immunity.

[KARTlK]

True damage is typed " ", which means it does not correspond to any resistances nor immunities, and therefore will damage everything for it's said amount.

This made me think you were saying that true damage will damage through magic immunity.

If that's not what you meant, sorry. I was only trying to clarify for those who were unaware of the mechanics.

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

Magic immunity: Cannot be targeted by magic target type, and cannot be damaged by magic damage.
Physical immunity: Cannot be targeted by physical target type, and cannot be damaged by physical damage.
True damage falls into none of these categories, and will damage both physical and magical immune units, as long as the target type is superior.

[[BARS]Frog100]

True damage is stopped by magic immunity though.

Unless there's a distinction between Pure and True?

Pure has a magical origin and is blocked by magic immunity but true goes through magic immunity. The only true I can think of is on sand wraith which definately does go through magic immunity, barbed armor might as well.

Edit: Actually it looks like it's just always called True damage, regardless of whether it goes through immunity or not

[Getsu]

Pure damage was attack type hero damage type fire, the fire part being negated by magic immunity. There is no damage in dota that ignores everthing.

Yes there is. Damage Type: Universal and its equivalents ignore armor value and isn't blocked by Magic Immunity.

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

Doom is the only spell in the game to use that, and it is reduced by spell resistance.

[KARTlK]

Heartbreak isn't superior magic damage, but still does 300dmg? It's not superior magic either, and it doesn't go through magic immunity. It goes through magic armor, like a true damage spell should. But it can't go through magic immunity because it's not superior magic, only true damage.

Am I just completely wrong or what? Does true damage actually go through magic immunity?

[[BARS]Frog100]

What did Spectre have then?

[[BARS]Frog100]

Heartbreak isn't superior magic damage, but still does 300dmg? It's not superior magic either, and it doesn't go through magic immunity. It goes through magic armor, like a true damage spell should. But it can't go through magic immunity because it's not superior magic, only true damage.

Am I just completely wrong or what? Does true damage actually go through magic immunity?

Heartache doesnt

[Disease1]

then what is truestrike? as from savage mace.

[[Wolf]Trysaeder]

Just read the thread.
Spectre had pure damage.
Sand wraith has true damage. Put 6 hearts on sand and dive her into the fountain with your magic immune unit there. He will take damage.
True damage ignores resistances. That's all. It's up to the target type to tell you what you can target or not.

[[BARS]Frog100]

then what is truestrike? as from savage mace.

That just means your attacks dont miss it has nothing to do with true damage.