Arachna

[[AGRO]Aegd]

Her DPS is pretty good now. Had no problem taking on a pretty OK Valkyrie on the same lane (tried the new 3vs3 map). Her new ultimate is pretty nice too, since it reveals the target pretty much all the time, making her very nice versus stealth heroes. The damage her ultimate deals is probably a bit to much though, since it has the potential to deal 1500 physical damage at lv 16 if the spiderling gets to hit 6 times. At lv 6 it has the potential to deal 450 damage, which is MORE than pyromancers ulti... allthough you have to keep in mind that it's physical and not magical damage... but the cooldown is like 30 seconds or something :P

I'm pretty sure they're going to be needing to nerf her ultimate damage next patch. It will need to have it's damage reduced drastically. All it needs to do is slow and reveal the target and last long enough to allow Arachna to keep chasing or to run away from battle. I see it more as an ablilty to chase or to run away, than a damage dealing ability, because Arachna has enough damage bonus and agility gain + farming power to deal enough damage without any "nuke" skills.

[[ITB]krucifix]

Hmm. You are playing Arachna as a hard carry, which I believe that she is not. Her agility gain is sub-bar. None of her skills actually help her to DPS except for her worst one, the aura. I would much rather play her as a ganking semicarry.

Hard carry now?

[[ABK]_Archangel_]

Hard carry now?

Yes.

[Thotor]

The damage her ultimate deals is probably a bit to much though, since it has the potential to deal 1500 physical damage at lv 16 if the spiderling gets to hit 6 times. At lv 6 it has the potential to deal 450 damage, which is MORE than pyromancers ulti... allthough you have to keep in mind that it's physical and not magical damage... but the cooldown is like 30 seconds or something :P

Only potential. Because late game, the spider won't surive long enough to hit all 6 attack.
I believe that now it's make the ulti very viable as it will force ennemies to actually kill the spider.

[Pewpewarrows]

Had people yell at me in-game for getting Shieldbreaker as opposed to Riftshards.

Discuss?

[[uBAD]FiNGERS]

You know what's good with aracha, Frost Skull. Gives you the health you need and stacks with your snare for -70% movement speed. A little redundant since you already have a snare but can make for a fun game

I agree, I tested this last night just to see if Frostwulf would stack. When it did I nearly peed myself. What a fun game.

[[uBAD]FiNGERS]

Had people yell at me in-game for getting Shieldbreaker as opposed to Riftshards.

Discuss?

If you have an AWESOME support team, by all means farm for 40 minutes and get different items. Shieldbreaker allows you to be USEFUL before the 30 minute mark. The people yelling at you for getting Riftshards are the same idiots who I yelled at for getting Vanguard on Tidehunter. (They didn't stack with Kraken shell).

edit: Sorry for double post, not sure how I managed that.

[[JAC]ClownFoot]

wow, i just played a game and random'd arachna. i feared for the worse, since i never played her before and heard she was horrible. not true, she is probably my favorite hero now

[Pewpewarrows]

wow, i just played a game and random'd arachna. i feared for the worse, since i never played her before and heard she was horrible. not true, she is probably my favorite hero now

Yeah, I agree with this. Got her randomly and found myself pleasantly surprised and loving the aggressive gameplay. She and Behemoth are quite fun for me at least.

[[Mio]`Shifty]

With her buffs now she is really strong, much better than previously. She's done well in pretty much every game I've been with her in since the patch.

[Logravity]

Her DPS is pretty good now. Had no problem taking on a pretty OK Valkyrie on the same lane (tried the new 3vs3 map). Her new ultimate is pretty nice too, since it reveals the target pretty much all the time, making her very nice versus stealth heroes. The damage her ultimate deals is probably a bit to much though, since it has the potential to deal 1500 physical damage at lv 16 if the spiderling gets to hit 6 times. At lv 6 it has the potential to deal 450 damage, which is MORE than pyromancers ulti... allthough you have to keep in mind that it's physical and not magical damage... but the cooldown is like 30 seconds or something :P

I'm pretty sure they're going to be needing to nerf her ultimate damage next patch. It will need to have it's damage reduced drastically. All it needs to do is slow and reveal the target and last long enough to allow Arachna to keep chasing or to run away from battle. I see it more as an ablilty to chase or to run away, than a damage dealing ability, because Arachna has enough damage bonus and agility gain + farming power to deal enough damage without any "nuke" skills.

I dont think her ult is too powerful because since the spider is killable in a few hits which will reduce the damage done to the target. If the skill did 225x6 no matter what, then that would be imba.

[[JAC]ClownFoot]

I dont think her ult is too powerful because since the spider is killable in a few hits which will reduce the damage done to the target. If the skill did 225x6 no matter what, then that would be imba.

i love it though. youd be suprised how many times ive killed a scout with it. what you do is wait for the scout to backstab you, then launch your spider at him. after that start spaming your slow shot, and he should invis and run. now he will be freaking out because he thought he was invincible when he pressed q, and not even think to kill the spiderling that is ripping him a new butt hole

[Logravity]

i love it though. youd be suprised how many times ive killed a scout with it. what you do is wait for the scout to backstab you, then launch your spider at him. after that start spaming your slow shot, and he should invis and run. now he will be freaking out because he thought he was invincible when he pressed q, and not even think to kill the spiderling that is ripping him a new butt hole

Lol yeah, her spiderling can counter invis heroes like scout and nighthound pretty well.

[ThatDaxGuy]

Okay, for a person who's new to the HoN scene and not an old DotA player, can someone explain orb walking real quick? How would I go about doing it? As simple as possible please cause I think I am very high up on the "n00b!" scale >_<

[exnx]

you manually press q for webshot, not autocasting it. The instant you cast the spell and see the webshot leave arachna you run forward, not letting the animation finish, and cast it again.

[ThatDaxGuy]

So its hardcast, 1st animation frame, run, hardcast again, rinse and repeat?

[Shadowcamsy]

The theory behind orb walking is: There's a point when your Webbed Shot is cast where the spell is fired and Arachna is still standing there finishing her casting animation before she attempts to do anything else. Also there is time where Arachna can't attack because she's already done an attack recently, and you have to wait until you can attack again. During this time you can still move your hero as you like, so you might as well be moving when you cant attack. If you attack and then move closer to your enemy, you can get more attacks off than if you were just right clicking on them.

Basically the term "orb walking" comes from dota heroes (Viper, Clinkz, Drow, Huskar), they all have spells that are similar to Arachna's Webbed Shot, when I say similar I mean they have short/no cooldown and apply an effect to the targetted enemy hero.

[[USA]Mordiggian]

Also, in DotA (from what I've read) by manually casting the spell, you don't draw creep aggro. However, I read somewhere that you still do in HoN as of Patch 1.28. Unsure if that's changed.

[Thotor]

you do not draw agro on manual cast. Which is why arachna is very good harasser in early game

[Shadowcamsy]

You still draw creep aggro at the moment, I feel that will change as S2 add more heroes with orb abilities, or action effect abilties... whatever they call it :P