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  1. #341
    i play her without webshot till lvl 7(roughly) usually because i like her high damage output early on which makes it easy to last hit and deny almost every creep.
    I mean i only play her mid(she is bad on lane) and only gang after gaining lvl 6, so i will (probably) have a slow already when im actually ganging(where my team mates can assist me as well).
    She is such a great farmer one has to take advantage of that! she destroys most heros mid in term of farming.
    Depending on the match up it is possible to push theother mid out of xp range if you choose to skill precision and stats earlier, because you are able to deny so much that you are lvl 6 quite a bit before your opponent is then you can just stay behind the enemy creep wave and last hit everything. if your opponent comes close use ulti, if he doesnt have a blink he is practically dead.
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    @ OP:
    not sure if you took the latest changes into consideration already, just thought of nullfire not purging hammer's ult anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcools View Post
    i play her without webshot till lvl 7(roughly) usually because i like her high damage output early on which makes it easy to last hit and deny almost every creep.
    I mean i only play her mid(she is bad on lane) and only gang after gaining lvl 6, so i will (probably) have a slow already when im actually ganging(where my team mates can assist me as well).
    She is such a great farmer one has to take advantage of that! she destroys most heros mid in term of farming.
    Depending on the match up it is possible to push theother mid out of xp range if you choose to skill precision and stats earlier, because you are able to deny so much that you are lvl 6 quite a bit before your opponent is then you can just stay behind the enemy creep wave and last hit everything. if your opponent comes close use ulti, if he doesnt have a blink he is practically dead.
    Uhh you don't play without webbed shot since the buff to her i hope ?
    That is by far her best ability man at the moment with the aura. I usually go

    3 1 1 3/2 1 6 etc.

    With the magic damage to the webbed shot it is so imba to harass with since you don't get any aggro from creeps. I can lane control so hard with arachna mid and really push the enemy hero away because they cant harass back as far as good. Just everytime you see enemy hero - webbed shot. When you got lvl 3 -4 webbed shot just keep hunting your target and she will die without your ulti.

    Great farmer, say whaat? In what way man...Sorry man but it feels you are talking about some other hero. Anyways i can't see her great farming abilities other than her pretty high damage output.
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  4. #344
    Sorry, i think i used the phrase "good farmer" in a different way than others usually do, i meant her dmg and attack animation is so nice, that you can last hit easily against most heros and get farmed really fast.

    Im playing Arachna without heavy harassment of my opponents so i dont need the web shot early(at least that's how i understand your point).
    I know you dont get aggro from the creeps if you use webbed shot, but when you skill it something like 3-0(stats)-3-0-1-4 or something similiar you deal quite some damage, which lets you most of the times(telling by experience) out farm your opponent, who you still can damage for almost the same amount of damage without webbed shot(you deal more damage wity my skilling).

    Furthermore am i a "safety first" kind of player and thats why i get stats as well. I had good results with this, but it could be that i just had bad opponents.

    I will try webbed shot now you mentioned it though^^ Ty for the advice
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  5. #345
    There is a kind of something very wrong, when Harden Carapace, NOWHERE near as good as Stone Hide, lasts less time, doesn't prevent disables, and is only damage reduction, NOT complete magic immunity.

    We need that 6 seconds of Carapace back, it was what made Arachna viable in a serious game.
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  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by Yin` View Post
    There is a kind of something very wrong, when Harden Carapace, NOWHERE near as good as Stone Hide, lasts less time, doesn't prevent disables, and is only damage reduction, NOT complete magic immunity.

    We need that 6 seconds of Carapace back, it was what made Arachna viable in a serious game.
    Your balance theory is wrong. Balance depends on a hero as a whole, not simply a comparison of a hero's skill to another. We can say "wow, Demon Hand is 32768 times better than Inhuman Nature, Inhuman Nature obviously needs a buff which will make SR viable!" Yeah.
    It's spelt Chronos. C-H-R-O-N-O-S. YOU DO NOT SPELL IT CHORNOS OR CRONOS, IT'S CHRONOS. ARE YOU RETARDED?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverStars View Post
    From pure maths Precision outdamages rank 4 webbed shot when your average base damage reaches 86. The 10% slow, 5 attack speed and the better lasthitting afforded by Precision should balance each other out to some extent.

    Yeah, personal preference.
    Adding the fact that her last hitting will go much better with a higher damage, so much more gold income. Indeed i would say this skill is more important early game than a webshot. Unless you gank so much and unless your team is incapable to stun or slow them for you.

  8. #348
    she is one of the best hero in game in my opinion. Spamable slow is useful early and late games

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    webbed shot has a dot on it
    harden carapace is 3 seconds
    spiderling dies in 4 hits
    wingbow costs 800+1800+3000 = 5600
    shrunken is 3900, not 3910
    geo is 2200+2100+800 = 5100
    Energy booster = power supply

    Also, please indent your body text, as it looks sloppy the way it is.

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    Great guide but I just have a few suggestions.

    Puzzlebox on Arachna can be a devastating item, with your webbed shot, move speed boost from the ranged creep and spiders sting you can make life hell for enemy heroes and it also ramps up your dps a lot.

    Frostwolfs is something I was wondering about (but haven't tried). The % attack speed slow + webbed shot attack speed slow + spider sting attack speed slow would make life hell for an enemy no? So long as you could toggle webbed shot on and off and the hp bonus would be great.

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    ^ Arachna is a DPS-carry who relies on auto-attacks, so Puzzlebox would be EXTREMELY situational item for her. You already have true sight, so that part is not necessary from it.
    Frostwolf is unnecessary for Arachna. Your Webbed Shot / Spider Sting slow them enough, and Savage Mace should help at that quest. Symbol of Rage gives more survivability than Frostwolf anytime, so I'd take it over FWS.
    Just my opinions.

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    Hmmm, thing is while she is a DPS puzzlebox adds oooodles of dps on her (as in while the summons are up you are getting +180 ish damage per second + spastic mana burn). The frostwolfs I thought just because of the stacking of attack speed slows, imagine having frostwolfs +spider sting + webbed shot + savage, I tested it out one game and a chronos with wingbow, savage and elder couldn't get off a single shot, even with bkb up.

    Once again puzzlebox assumes you know how to micro :/ (getting it with no idea how to use it would be stupid)

    Just my 2 cents

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    You are seriously underrating Portal Key. It isn't just a gimmicky item, it is freaking baws.

  14. #354
    get pk.

  15. #355
    PK is amazing

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    PK is good on EVERY ****ING HERO. That's the thing. It *IS* gimmicky because 90% of the time you're better off buying an alchemist bones instead of a PK for more farm (so you can rape harder late game).

    If you're just pubstomping then it doesn't really matter what you get, so it is irrelevent.
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  17. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by rhodric1 View Post
    This guide is pretty good, but there are a couple of things I disagree with.

    While getting stats early game is the way to go, getting more than 1 rank of carapace is not. You only need 1 rank for the debuff dispell. If you are in a lane with 2 nukers, immediately ask for a switch. If switch is not possible, carapace isn't going to save you. You'll still get nuked when carapace isn't up.

    Also you should consider getting precision around level 10, because this is where your damage is high enough to benefit more from precision than stats. And this is where you'll start participating in ganks.

    Item-wise, you can't ever go wrong with assassin's shroud. You are extremely vulnerable to ganks all game long. Assassin's shroud + carapace will save you plenty of times.
    yeah, you totally can go wrong... it's called "hey, I'm gonna tell my ward ***** to buy some dust and use it when arach goes invis"... >.>

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