if they get headdress and idol against heavy magic damage team (which is obvious) then there is COMPLETELY no point in going lifesteal+harkons instead of cookie-cutter damage build
no1 buys shieldbreaker on support heroes to buff team damage for same reason that no1 buys harkons on semi-carries to buff team damage
you can buy vestments for 400g and completely nullify harkons+decrease damage from spells. and its viable and a smart move because most damage every hero receives comes from spells.
but you wont buy ringmail to nullify shieldbreaker because its just stupid and wont save you from shitloads of damage.
(semi) carrys buy harkons to do magic dmg and help team add dps (makes some support/nuke heroes come out a little more lategame)
(semi) carrys buy shieldbreaker to do physical dmg when the team already has a -armor strat going on
say I have 0 armor/magic armor
I can buy 1 platemails to have +4 armor total (after shieldbreaker), thus making u hit less
you can stack them
I can only buy 1 magic vestment to nullify harkons debuff, but now I am doing basically still doing true dmg to you
if I buy headdress then I have the highest magic armor buff, of 10, which makes it 5 after harkons
if I am a tank hero and I can easily stack armor so most physical hits does reduced dmg
if I am vs someone with harkons, the best I can do is buy a barrior idol and have a 400 magic shield and +5 magic armor.
the problem is if I have a barrior idol, archer can just 2 hits the shield and I only get +5 magic armor or he can turn harkons off until the effect has gone off or until I am dead. I will most likely not suspect archer will build a harkons and it will cost a lot to stack armor and get magic armor at the same time
Last edited by Rean; 05-15-2010 at 10:27 PM.
with harkons u will just die to them
cd will conduit you
SR will just outheal until you run out of mana
defiler will just rape you with ultimate
remember,FA has no scaling abilities. you just listed 3 carries who outcarry her easily
FA is no match for them
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/m...hp?mid=1102137 defiler made both headdress and barbed. and what will you do to her with harkons? she has shitloads of magic armor,shitloads of hp,plenty of armor and painful ultimate
Last edited by Rean; 05-15-2010 at 10:54 PM.
been waiting for a fa premium guide which i can trust. a true very good guide, thanks mate!
really helped me
You know you could have read this guide when it wasn't premium and made up your own mind on wether to trust it or not lol?
Stay premium, gentlecolts.
in those cases u're probably not the main carry (you shouldn't be )
I'm saying if u want to help ur carry harkons is a nice addition if they have chosen to go harkons and/or if ur team can put out shetloads of magic dmg ()
also if ur team decides to get some barbed armor it'll make it even more effective ;P
you are not support,you are not here to help team
your job is to carry them to victory
archer is semi carry
means u carry all the time just like valkyrie
it doesnt mean that you rice-farm for 40 mins
it means u pwn early with skellies,and own mid/late with ultimate and autoattack
Last edited by Rean; 05-16-2010 at 02:02 PM.
you do know that u wont be using ultimate from 600 range right?
and stacking ancients is supports job
what do u take on very very long games (around 60 minutes) - I used to love FA before the huge nerfs but I playied her in 2 games yesterday and both times I feel lacking and useless after 45 minutes.
I simply get focused and die right away, also ganking after that point will not happen (u just roam in team back and forth - and gank forest if u get lucky)
so anyway, my damage seems to not do the job anymore and like i said she dies in 3 hits (or 1 stun and 2 hits )
(usually the items I picked were Ghost Marchers/ SoulScream Ring/ Charged Hammer/ ShieldBraker / (and after that I`m on the way to Frostwolf but generally I don`t get to finish it)
so I stress again, the first 20-30 minutes FA is total ownage but after that it is just simply useless.
how the heck do u guys play her?