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I was wondering why he is never picked in competitive games. I know he is a great easy mode carry.
Is it just because he can't get an easy farm in Normal Mode and he isn't any good in team fights?
Are there other reasons why/why not? Or if anyone can explain beyond what I just said it would be great.
Thanks
He is competitive. He is either banned or picked in most competitive games. I know there are a few with QuC Angel playing magebane. Out of all the carries I think he needs the least amount of farm to be effective. His ult only gets stronger as the game progresses and if paired with the proper partner, he can make a good laner. Easy to last hit and fastest base attack speed in the game. He's also difficult to gank because of blink.
Don't get him if the other team picks succubus or panda.
He is very broken at the moment, and is indeed a competitive pick.
Yes.
Getting elder parasite can work but it can also be kind of kamikaze if you want perma stun go for geometers bane its way better has you get more mana drain and way more chance to perma stun then with elder parasiteOriginally Posted by Phenax
I agree that he can be competitive but i dont know what kind of replays you ppl are seeing to say that he is allways banned or picked cause neither of them is true he is picked sometimes and probably banned if he can counter like 3 of your team picks but thats abt it has there are other heros who are more important to ban...
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Ilu dont stun more
since wen doesnt bash passes to images? i stoped playing dota for some time before hon came out so maybe that changed but they used to or at least i think it used to kind of imba now that I think abt it.... but you still get + mana drain and you dont really need the extra atack speed from parasite in the hero wich has the best attack speed in the gameIlu dont stun more
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ok ive been checking and stand corrected
? Bashing - Works on Chronos's TimeLock and Pestilence's Gore and Rampage's Horned Strike
this seem to be the only bashes that pass to ilusions but i stand by my build has the mana drain is still imba
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He is not THAT competitive, depending on the situation he can get picked, he needs loads of farm and levels to be effective in a team battle.
Pretty sure the mana burn doesn't stack homie.
im pretty sure mana burn does stack
parasite is pretty pro for early game gank
He can be good against hero?s with high mana cost spells cause of his aura, but in general carries like madman and sandwraith are better.
Magebane is not banned or picked every game as stated above. The hero can be competitive but is not a common pick.
He is somewhat situational and not always the best choice, but his latest changes made him viable for sure.
What he said. The situations he is good against are against heroes with mass aoe damage, like a pyro and a soulreaper, torturer, heroes like that. There's a game when he's played as a support, only for his plus aoe magic armor in an aoe and he picked up a pipe.
Manaburn does stack. I got Symbol of Rage, was still able to steal their mana.
Geo bane with his latent mana burning is ridiculous. At the least if you're not going to brutalize people you'll easily shut a hero down.
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he ment with other manaburn items not other orbs
Geometer's Bane no longer has mana burn because it doesn't build from nullfire.Pretty sure the mana burn doesn't stack homie.
Parasite can work, but he's already ridiculously fragile if stunned. He needs HP which Geometer's addresses IMO, but there are a lot of different builds he can do effectively.
I wouldn't call him very broken or OP by a longshot though, his aura isn't even that effective against most heroes because he's too flimsy to be sitting in range of non-disabled casters long enough for it to be a big deal.
The big thing that helped him is merging the magic resist and blink into one skill lets him level up both blink and combustion earlier in the game, before you pretty much had to max resist early because he was so easy to kill with doublestun otherwise.
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