Cloud Scepter

[KingMoscow]

As always, vote on concept not on numbers.

My first try at an item, but something I feel there could be a use for. I was using Mock of Brilliance and thought 'What if I could do this for mana?'

So, here's what I've got:

Nullfire Blade (3300g)
+
Acolyte Staff (2700g)
=
Cloud Scepter (6000g)

Item Stats:
+20 Agility
+35 Intelligence
Mana Combustion on hit (72 mana)

Aura (Friendly Units 700 range):
+36 mana/second

Aura (Enemy Units 700 range):
-36 mana/second

Activation (Cooldown 120 seconds, mana cost 300):
Removes all debuffs from all allied units within 400 range. Applies a 30% slow to all enemies within 400 range.

What do you guys think? imba? Terribad? Please vote and comment.

Edit: Forgot to add activation. If you vote yes or no, please comment so that we can tune this into something worthwhile. Please remember to vote on concept and not numbers. This is very rough.

[A`nub`is]

Imba. Terribad.

Stats:
Agi+Int is pointless on every hero.
72 mana combustion is imba. (Yes magebane and geometer's is imba).

Aura:
36 mana sec x5 = 180 mana per second. Nice reg... and the other team -180 reg per second...

Activation:
poor Slither :/


PS: Polls need to be private.

[KingMoscow]

Aura wouldn't stack. One only like MoB, so regen gain wouldn't be 180 or -180.

I wanted to make this useful on Int support heroes but Nullfire already has agi so it didn't feel right to take that off.

Any suggestions on how to balance? What would you change the combustion to?

[[DTA2]Typhy]

Really imba with the current numbers. If your trying to make this Mock-like, -20 mana regen for all enemies within 650 range, no helpful mana regen, and a small mana burn, like 36 at the most. Plus, would this require rank 2 nullfire blade, or rank 1? Looks like rank 1. The activated is OP and UP at the same time. 400 range sucks, thats succubus attack range, but the complete removal of debuffs, and the slowing of opponents is really powerful. maybe slowing, with 40% at start, wearing off over 4 seconds, and removes one debuff off of every friendly hero.

Also, acolyte staff should be replaced with 2 quickblades + 700 recipe cost, and make this a 40 agil item, 5 int. Bunch of stats, yes, but huge cost. Would be cool to see, but needs some definite tweaking to not be completely OP.

[KingMoscow]

Typhy I like a lot of those ideas. I guess the problem is that whilst requiring Nullfire Blade I actually wanted this to be used by support rather than carries.

Maybe I should be pulling Nullfire out of it and putting other stuff with the oft underused Acolyte Staff.

[xdayum]

This item seems to be wayyyy imbalanced for the current game. I like the idea you're trying to implement more mana burns in this game, to stop those pesky carries and nukers. The Mock mana burn feel is a nice touch, but the numbers are too high. It'll maybe be okay if it was lowered to -2 or -3 then with a set of upgrades goes up to -5 or -6. In team fights it wouldn't be noticeable but while laning or chasing it destroys heroes. Upgrades mean make the recipe in general cheaper. Lower the mana combustion to maybe -18 or -22 per hit or even lower.

Fix the agi+int, those 2 stats should never be in the same item. As for the AoE active ability, I say that its too overpowered. The mana combustion from auto attacking, and the AoE mana burn that I suggested earlier is already strong as is. So just take it out.

[Blaky039]

reduce it to just 20 mana per second AND take out the mana regen, its too imba rite now.

[[TCND]Tanubis]

Waaay imba

[Isin]

Lol forget bloodstone, buy one of these for infinite mana!