Zephyr Competitive Discussion

[[reQ]thewishkah]

Hi there,

as you know, Zephyr currently isn't a top tier competitive hero, largely due to the fact that he
-is farm dependant,
-easily gankable to prevent farming,
-contributes very little to team fights within the first 20-30 minutes of a game.
-His damage is also limited to his cyclones,
-his main method of tanking (wind shield) is easily countered (purge sword)

however, Zephyr appears to have some qualities which are a good place to start and keep him from being a terrible tier hero
-He can jungle early, effectively allowing for two solo lanes
-He has an amazing lane presence, a solid pusher, and potential for huge GPM
-Level 3 Ultimate is a huge factor in team fights, used to limited AtkSpeed of enemies, improve AtkSpeed of allies, and is great for chasing
-Leap is a useful ganking tool when used correctly, can push the enemy heroes back into creeps, other heroes, or foward into towers etc.

What do you think could be improved on Zephyr to make him more of a competitive hero?

Possbly (i think) a slightly higher str gain, or cyclone travel speed + uptime increase, a shorter cooldown on his abilities, or a passive buff to allies based on his cyclones? (ie 2% increased attack speed/ms for all allied units within a 600 unit range per cyclone or similar)

[fatrend1]

Make his ulti affected by SOTM and make it cover the map

[[reQ]thewishkah]

Make his ulti affected by SOTM and make it cover the map

Thats actually not a bad idea, considering its current long cooldown

[Drasha]

Just make it cover the map with out being effected by stom >.>

[Llama]

I saw the idea that using his ulti automaticly gives him max cyclones. Would certainly be a step in the right direction. A more supportive buff like +AS in an AoE for every cyclone would be good too

[Drasha]

I would like to see leap put a snare on people it hits so he would be a better ganker.

[[reQ]thewishkah]

I would like to see leap put a snare on people it hits so he would be a better ganker.

like a leap debuff where they lose ms and regain it over time or something? that would be cool, considering when you leap, they escape by the time Cyclones have caught up =[

I saw the idea that using his ulti automaticly gives him max cyclones. Would certainly be a step in the right direction.

definately, can't even count the number of times i've had to defend base with no cyclones. =\

[Legato]

if he got full cyclones after ulting it would be a drastic improvement to the hero

[Legato]

leap doesn't do much damage and has a very long cooldown for what it does

adding a movementspeed snare would be good

[[TL]Ruscour]

like a leap debuff where they lose ms and regain it over time or something? that would be cool, considering when you leap, they escape by the time Cyclones have caught up =[



definately, can't even count the number of times i've had to defend base with no cyclones. =\

twk has good ideas when he's not playing tree.

[[8oD]noertti]

Make his cyclones teleport with him.

[[0QQ]daywalker3]

port cyclones with him and full cyclones on ult yeye

[Blaky039]

Also make his cyclones like puppet whiplash, over time he gets cyclones, or take out the expire time, ffs he's the master of the wind...

[Templar]

port cyclones with him and full cyclones on ult yeye

That would make Zephyr super awesome.

!support

[[FME]knallfrosch]

That would make Zephyr super imbalanced

no support

[Geo]

I saw the idea that using his ulti automaticly gives him max cyclones. Would certainly be a step in the right direction. A more supportive buff like +AS in an AoE for every cyclone would be good too

This. I love watching Zephyr work, and would really like to see more of him. He's a really cool hero. I enjoy watching my brother play him as it looks like a lot of fun.

[[reQ]thewishkah]

This. I love watching Zephyr work, and would really like to see more of him. He's a really cool hero. I enjoy watching my brother play him as it looks like a lot of fun.

Honestly he is my favourite hero to play, it was a really good design intent with the cyclones, but currently they are too hard to maintain whilst participating in team fights (eg when both teams are about to clash just waiting for an initiation or whatever, your cyclones expire and your contribution is almost nullified)

[[BRO]Mellow]

Zephyr is so boring, right click>kill people with magic damage

I also hate playing against him

[[reQ]thewishkah]

Zephyr is so boring, right click>kill people with magic damage

I also hate playing against him

this is just to discuss his balance at a competitive level, not if you like or dislike the hero =[

[[EG]chu]

i like the ult idea, he def needs some kind of buff to be viable pick in comp