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Thread: Wind Chaser [Windrunner remake]

View Poll Results: Would you like to see this hero implemented in HoN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iDrizzt View Post
    Loved Windrunner, I think this is a good port, the ultimate doesn't fit well imo, I think it should be replaces with a stronger ranged hero killerkind of ulti, this current ulti doesn't maximize her potential.
    Well I wanted her to be fragile, yet highly mobile with very short periods of evasion and max movespeed (Easily achievable with Wind Tunnel and Slipstream + Boots), this ult (Unlike her old one lets her stay on the move, while laying down some serious damage, it's based off her FULL MODIFIED damage don't forget, with some +Dmg items this is insane output in a few short seconds.

    That said, i'm totally open to ideas. Lay some on me.

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    YES!Windrunner!!Smash them to pieces!

    1.Increase the range of her first skill.Playing windrunner was always about being a sniper.Remove slow if it is needed.

    2.Reduce the cooldown of her ulti.It should have high mana-cost, but short cooldown is what gives high late-game killing potential.
    Last edited by Debbye; 11-25-2009 at 02:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbye View Post
    YES!Windrunner!!Smash them to pieces!

    1.Increase the range of her first skill.Playing windrunner was always about being a sniper.Remove slow if it is needed.

    2.Reduce the cooldown of her ulti.It should have high mana-cost, but short cooldown is what gives high late-game killing potential.
    For her Ult, how about?:

    Duration: 2/3/4 seconds.
    Cooldown: 80/55/25 seconds.
    Mana Cost: 190/300/450.
    Damage: 80/90/100% of attack damage per hit.

    I was thinking about her ult's damage scaling though, the way it is gives little incentive to use the lower ranks, they have high cost for little damage, I mean rank 1 gives you 4 hits for 80% of her normal damage. Sure it dishes out those hits in 2 seconds, and you can do them while running alongside someone at top speed, slowing them with Slipstream, but still... Okay, maybe i'm just overthinking it. lol.

    As for Wind Tunnel, I think 900 is plenty, not only have I given it a path which buffs your movespeed AND ALLIES for 3 seconds, but her attack range is only 350 now (Since she has increased CC and mobility), which means you'll always be in range to use that on a potential target.

    Edit: Changed the Ult to include attack modifiers and buffed the duration slightly.
    Last edited by `Av; 11-26-2009 at 12:26 AM.

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    The 3-rd rank of ulti is a bit weak,in my consideration. 4 seconds means only 8 attacks, she wont be able to stand against most tanks(high hp) and agility-based heroes(high armor) in the late game.They will just laugh at her in the face,since 8 hits dont mean much to them, and after those 4 seconds she's back to her normal attack speed,which is very low.My opinion is that duration should be increased.Or,maybe the whole concept should be changed,however her ulti should be about increasing attack speed, since it is the thing that gives her late potential.

    I still think that it is vital that her first skill should allow her to finish off her enemies from a safe distance.This is the skill that made windrunner actually windrunner. I enjoyed every moment I killed smb with that arrow. And double killing with a single arrow sends you to a world of bliss. All of it is because you need skill and expirience to predict the movements of your enemies and hit your target. One had to work hard to learn to shoot well.
    Last edited by Debbye; 11-25-2009 at 02:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbye View Post
    The 3-rd rank of ulti is a bit weak,in my consideration. 4 seconds means only 8 attacks, she wont be able to stand against most tanks(high hp) and agility-based heroes(high armor) in the late game.They will just laugh at her in the face,since 8 hits dont mean much to them, and after those 4 seconds she's back to her normal attack speed,which is very low.My opinion is that duration should be increased.Or,maybe the whole concept should be changed,however her ulti should be about increasing attack speed, since it is the thing that gives her late potential.

    I still think that it is vital that her first skill should allow her to finish off her enemies from a safe distance.This is the skill that made windrunner actually windrunner. I enjoyed every moment I killed smb with that arrow. And double killing with a single arrow sends you to a world of bliss. All of it is because you need skill and expirience to predict the movements of your enemies and hit your target. One had to work hard to learn to shoot well.
    I know exactly what you're saying about Power Shot, it was one of the best feelings getting that shot perfect through some trees or creeps and finishing that runner. I really wanted to keep that, but at the same time, I wanted to increase her support and chasing abilites. The old Windrunner really felt like a 1 trick pony, stun/ult/windrun to chase or escape as required. With the change in the form of Wind Tunnel, it opens up many more possibilies than simply a weak (At mid game onwards, especially if you hit trees/creeps) nuke that gives tiny vision.

    I think i'd be comfortable upping it to 1000 range but no more, that's really a long way, and anymore than that and the path would be gone before you reached the end of it, which kind of defeats the purpose of that. Any comments on the way the damage of it is dealt? I thought this made it easier to clear creep waves, with more predictable damage, making her a more efficient pusher/chaser.

    As for the ult, I was intending her to really be able to deal her ult damage while in Slipstream to really dominate auto-attackers like Chronos and Warbeast (As was her role in DotA) so perhaps I should reinstate attack modifiers on her Ult hits? Because upping the duration or damage would be crazy against non-tanks.

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    Another vote no, and no post why... :'(

    On another note, does anyone know the pre-requisites for a move to the Popular Suggestions forum? I can't seem to find the guidelines for that anywhere...

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    Concept art added Courtesy of StarLadyPlace! Thankyou so much!

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    Quick bump before work. Need more feedback!

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    *Bump*

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    34 Votes and only about 6 people posting, cmon guys post anything! Keep the thread up and/or discuss the skills, seriously not even any flames in here what's the deal? lol. XD

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    2 more votes no, with no post as to why. Seriously guys, if you're going stack the poll at least give me a reason.

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    Would her ult be affected by miss chance such as Night Hound Casting his smoke over you as you cast it?

    Other than that BUMP for WR port!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconH View Post
    Would her ult be affected by miss chance such as Night Hound Casting his smoke over you as you cast it?

    Other than that BUMP for WR port!
    Yes, for all intents and purposes, her Ult replaces her normal attack, simply attacking faster and allowing movement during. All modifiers positive AND negative are still in effect. Obviously she couldn't activate her Ult AFTER being under NH's smoke though. It's still a spell.

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    Bump.

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    Bump. Need more feedback!!

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    As above.

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    Bump

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    Bump for votes and posts.

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    At least flame it guys!

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    well as a fanboy of windrunner myself i gotta say i love your remake. just a few things though, i think the slow on the first skill should be progressive (instead of a solid 80%, make it something like 20/40/60/80)

    other than that, love the tweaks you did on the skills, thumbs up for you!
    +1

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