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    Plz get me to 1600

    Hi Guys,

    i was forever now in the 1500 bracket... Over the last 2 month i managed to get to 1590 and dropped all the way back to 1490; due to bad games raging by myself and the usual feeder teams

    Would some 1600+ Player be interested to pull me in the 1600 Bracket?


    Thanks alot, Greeeez
    Centra

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    If you cant get there by yourself I doubt that you belong in there.
    Last edited by Ackwell1; 09-12-2012 at 08:40 AM.

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    Ackwell is right. Trust me, if you belong in 1600, you'll reach it over not too much time with a decent win % without trying too hard. It will come naturally.

    Which means to get to this natural state you need to employ a better attitude towards your team (no EXCESSIVE raging, no flaming out of spite, try to be communicative with simple plans for the game like "Let's gank this hero and then push this lane / Let's all just get together and push / Let me just farm this one creep wave for my item and I'll be on my way" and keep as positive an attitude as possible) and try to work on flaws in your game. Be your own biggest critic.
    Last edited by LordTroll; 09-12-2012 at 09:03 AM.

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    If you cant get into the 1600's yourself and someone carries you, you will just drop back to w/e rating you are currently at in a few games.

  5. #5
    Fair enough you reached it before, but you shouldn't ask for someone to carry you there - maybe you reached near the 1600s but dropped back down because the players got better.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by CentraCromos View Post
    Hi Guys,

    i was forever now in the 1500 bracket... Over the last 2 month i managed to get to 1590 and dropped all the way back to 1490; due to bad games raging by myself and the usual feeder teams

    Would some 1600+ Player be interested to pull me in the 1600 Bracket?


    Thanks alot, Greeeez
    Centra
    win or lose your still gonna get feeders. I remember l a while ago I had 500 gpm with zephry and we were starting to get into there base but we just had this feeder tremble that went 0-20, he wasn't even purposely feeding either he was just terrible with that hero not even one kill, point is that there is rare games that are impossible to win but that shouldn't happen too often,

  7. #7
    Feeders are everywhere in 1500 games. The only reason there are no feeders on the other team is that if you carry them hard enough, they don't get a chance to feed.

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    Feeders are everywhere in 1500 games. The only reason there are no feeders on the other team is that if you carry them hard enough, they don't get a chance to feed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous23 View Post
    win or lose your still gonna get feeders. I remember l a while ago I had 500 gpm with zephry and we were starting to get into there base but we just had this feeder tremble that went 0-20, he wasn't even purposely feeding either he was just terrible with that hero not even one kill, point is that there is rare games that are impossible to win but that shouldn't happen too often,
    You have just provided one example of a "rare" game. I'm sure that you don't have 300+ gpm average per game, and I can tell that having 500 gpm in that game was an anomaly in itself. If you consistently play at a high level, it isn't too difficult to enter another bracket.

    I have been stuck in the 1300s bracket for the longest time. After a couple months at playing on the 1500-1600 level with my friends, I solo queued up to the 1400s, and if I tryhard it up, I'm sure I can make it to the 1500s.

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    first of all what does 1600 for you? u can call your friends 1500 scrubs? great! second im swinging around 1550-1660 (mood,fun/troll stuff,luck) and i see almost no diffrence at all apart from the higher you get the more cocky the players get in their behaviour thats it... i have seen 1700 playing like 1300 and 1500 playing like 1700 (no smurfs) just play on play for fun not for stats. or you gonna have a frustrating time

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordTroll View Post
    Ackwell is right. Trust me, if you belong in 1600, you'll reach it over not too much time with a decent win % without trying too hard. It will come naturally.

    Which means to get to this natural state you need to employ a better attitude towards your team (no EXCESSIVE raging, no flaming out of spite, try to be communicative with simple plans for the game like "Let's gank this hero and then push this lane / Let's all just get together and push / Let me just farm this one creep wave for my item and I'll be on my way" and keep as positive an attitude as possible) and try to work on flaws in your game. Be your own biggest critic.
    That's just hypocrisy. Being a team game, no matter how great you are, you can't simply win in several scenarios due to lack of average-skilled team mates. You can curb-stomp the enemy team with a hard carry but there are teams which can't catch up even with the greatest of your efforts, leaving a place hard pusher in the enemy team to shine in the late game (or similar late-game scenarios).

    Either the MM system is generous to leave the "uncarriable" teams out of your way (AKA a very lucky streak, if you're considering working your way up in a short run) or you work your way up by grouping with decent players. 99% of scenarios described out of those two possibilities are fairytales.
    Last edited by aTr0s; 09-13-2012 at 10:21 PM.

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    It's a simple case of odds, skeptical dude. Sure you'll have newbs, untalented people, griefers or casuals in games, but you'll also come across people willing to rise just like you.

    Keep the attitude I mentioned in that post in all your games, and in some of them you'll notice it pays off as guess what, hundreds of people complain about the same as OP, it's old as ****. AKA, more are willing to win and try hard. Now if all of you who want to get 1600 employ the teamwork positive attitude, have no doubt you'll reach a higher bracket solo over a period of time. The better teammate you are in attitude and skill, the faster this will be.

  13. #13
    You should be able to solo queue up to 1650 by yourself. Sure your MMR will drop from time to time but eventually it should reach the area where you belong. I was stuck at 1600 for a while, now I'm finally back up to 1650 and consistently stay there. I'll win a few, then lose a few, generally outplayed as a team, but that's what I belong.

  14. #14
    Being high 1600 is boring. The only good thing is you get to be trashtalked as brown/orange in high rating games.

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    If everyone agrees that if he can't get here, he don't belong here, how do anyone justify smurfing? It might just a be a small curiosity, but I wonder what's the % of games that would normally be won, but that are ruined by smurfs stomping mid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    If everyone agrees that if he can't get here, he don't belong here, how do anyone justify smurfing? It might just a be a small curiosity, but I wonder what's the % of games that would normally be won, but that are ruined by smurfs stomping mid.
    That smurf can be on your team aswell. It's not exclusive to the enemy team.

    And if you're really 1600 playing in the 1400 then you're a smurf yourself. So your team will have atleast one smurf or more, while the enemy team will have zero or more. The odds are in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okuu View Post
    If everyone agrees that if he can't get here, he don't belong here, how do anyone justify smurfing? It might just a be a small curiosity, but I wonder what's the % of games that would normally be won, but that are ruined by smurfs stomping mid.
    I recently smurfed 1500 and 1600s, I didnt encounter to many smurfs including me. Smurfs are pretty rare when you put verified only on. You cant blame them....

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    Everyone goes up and down in rank all the time because of how inconsistent games are at these brackets. Like others said, if you really play as good as an average 1600 player and pick heros you are good with you will eventually get there again (it will take a long time if you're not substantially better or playing some kind of stomp heros often). I keep bouncing from 1600s to high 1500s all the time and it doesen't take long for me to get back up. When I'm tired of losing games I usually queue up with a lower ranked friend (mid 1400s for example) just because it increases the chance of me being pink/blue so I can go mid uncontested and play what I like and have a higher impact in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CentraCromos View Post
    Hi Guys,

    i was forever now in the 1500 bracket... Over the last 2 month i managed to get to 1590 and dropped all the way back to 1490; due to bad games raging by myself and the usual feeder teams

    Would some 1600+ Player be interested to pull me in the 1600 Bracket?


    Thanks alot, Greeeez
    Centra
    While it is true that having a bad streak can drop you a degree of MMR/PSR, if you're on a 1600's skill level you'll cap it eventually, might take a while though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aTr0s View Post
    That's just hypocrisy. Being a team game, no matter how great you are, you can't simply win in several scenarios due to lack of average-skilled team mates. You can curb-stomp the enemy team with a hard carry but there are teams which can't catch up even with the greatest of your efforts, leaving a place hard pusher in the enemy team to shine in the late game (or similar late-game scenarios).

    Either the MM system is generous to leave the "uncarriable" teams out of your way (AKA a very lucky streak, if you're considering working your way up in a short run) or you work your way up by grouping with decent players. 99% of scenarios described out of those two possibilities are fairytales.
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