[2.6.15] Monkey King

[Antimodus]

I bet you want MK to stay this way because you are tierd of getting stomped by him in pubs...

Monkey King is ****ing useless now, 'nuff said.

mk was fine how it was. Shouldnt change anything

Quality insight right there

And finally:

Im tired of noobs who are replaying without any insight at all..

I am too.

But I think what you really mean to say is this.
There is one correct opinion - my opinion. Any post restating it without any comparative analysis (or anything pertaining to facts) is "insightful". Any post to the contrary is just a noob whine with zero insight. Seems legit.

[Strayreaper]

I think they should have waited with a complete rework. S2 should have nerfed the vault damage, (made the second part magical, or just nerfed the psyical damage on the vault by a bit)

Keep in mind that you can still do the same damage as before with his combo, Its slightly harder yes, but this had the cost of removing the mobility of the hero (aka the fun part about the it)

This was by absolutely no means a rework. They didn't change any of his skills in any big way. As you said, he does the same amount of damage at the cost of mobility, this means he is just as good in 1v1 situations as he was before, as long as the hero he is going against has no escape mechanism.

And that was a fairly big issue for me, before this change he could combo down heroes that had a blink before they could get away. A hero should not be able hit a blink hero with 6 instances of damage from abilities and some auto attacks before they can blink away when they only have one stun that hits twice for a short time.

The main issue though was not the damage. Plenty of heroes can combo down another hero in <5 seconds. The problem with monkey king is that he used to be able to go into a group of two or three heroes a snipe a kill or two and get back out of the situation with little danger to himself. His mobility​ was what was too strong. That is why it was nerfed. Now it is much harder to get a solo kill against 2 or more heroes.

[GregerMoek]

Looks like we got a bad 1580 with ZERO insight.

I bet you want MK to stay this way because you are tierd of getting stomped by him in pubs...

I bet the only reason you follow the MK-balance tread is because you are afraid that MK might be reworked back into the hero he once was (with a slight nerf to his combo)


What would this mean?

You would start to see him in games again, and played in an effective and FUN manner.

What would this mean for you?

You would start to see smurf owning you hard because you have no fcking clue on how to play against the hero. While this is sad for you, its something you can learn from.. (not like you couldnt have been stomped by 10000 million other heroes anyway)



Personally i believe that the biggest reason for the rework on MK is players like this GregerMoek, replying with little to no insight, ruining the game for others that loved the hero (well his animation timings, mobility etc) they way it was..




Conclusion:

I think they should have waited with a complete rework. S2 should have nerfed the vault damage, (made the second part magical, or just nerfed the psyical damage on the vault by a bit)


PS:
Keep in mind that you can still do the same damage as before with his combo, Its slightly harder yes, but this had the cost of removing the mobility of the hero (aka the fun part about the it)

LOL, look at this tearful crybaby. Definitely mad and butthurt. If you actually bothered to read all the comments in this very thread, you'd know that I play MK myself and I didn't entirely like the change but I can man up and live with it, as well as understand the reasons behind the change, without crying a ****ing dumpster worth of baby-tears.

You are in fact so mind-blowingly stupid and retarded that you probably wouldn't even understand it if you read all the comments posted. You are simply mad and bad because you can't come up with anything solid except for "omg noobs can own with him". That sentence by the by CLEARLY shows that you are butthurt because you got owned by MK post-patch by a supposed "noob". It's laughable really, you accuse me of being mad because a MK owned me when it is clearly you that is mad for that very reason.

Have a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Although I guess you're simply too dumb to even be able to open that article. Moreover, even if you read it, I'm guessing you'd have a harder time understanding it than a pig would have to grow wings and fly off.


Stay mad, stay bad, stay butthurt. Sorry to ruin your pitiful attempt to play this game. You amuse me and many others!

As someone who played him a lot before and after the change, I still think he is fun to play, maybe slightly less so but still fun and interesting to play. Definitely not unplayable (unless you're a shitcan). Learn to play, small son and pub-clown.

[LordTroll]

Honestly, I'm aware the only reason this thread is open is because it's sort of a quarantine thread for the GD whiners, but frankly this is becoming too ridiculous for a Balance thread. These people see no reason, which was kinda my hope in them coming here to debate with people that use the Balance forum often.

This thread is crazy, so lock me maybe?

[Strayreaper]

Honestly, I'm aware the only reason this thread is open is because it's sort of a quarantine thread for the GD whiners, but frankly this is becoming too ridiculous for a Balance thread. These people see no reason, which was kinda my hope in them coming here to debate with people that use the Balance forum often.

This thread is crazy, so lock me maybe?

I agree. Lots of opinion, not enough fact, too much flame/whining/calling others out.

[[DiW]Doorgymguy]

I don't know if it works, but from what i've seen lately alot of mk's are maxing W then Q, If anyone can confirm it's half decent quote me, if so i'll leave it at that, As i said haven't tested.

[[eR]Ekamo]

The Lord of Trolls is correct. This thread has derailed enough. Unfortunately some people decided that they are not going to follow the rules, and that resulted in over 30 warnings/infractions from this thread solely. That sort of behavior is not tolerated on these forums, and I hope that is clear now to the people that received these warnings/infractions.

Thread closed.