Unmelting Flake

[Katieeee]

Intro.

Platemail. Provides a good bump up in Armor, but mainly just used in the building of Frostfield Plate with not much impact.


Suggested Replacement:

Strength Bracer (510)
Ringmail (550)
Recipe (340)

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Unmelting Flake (1400)

Item Purpose: A replacement for Platemail in the building of Frostfield Plate that also works well as an early- to mid-game stand-alone item.

Item Stats and Ability:
+6 Strength
+3 Intelligence
+3 Agility
+6 Armor

(Aura) -15 attack speed on enemy Heroes within a 600 radius.
(Activate) Slows the attack speed of enemy Heroes within a 600 radius by an additional -15 attack speed for 5 seconds. Cooldown: 45 seconds. Manacost: 120.

How It Will Affect the Game:
Like Frostfield Plate, this item is made to slow down carries/semi-carries who deal much of their impact through auto attacks. Hard carries will overcome the total of -30 Attack Speed in the lategame (By then you will either have or will try to complete your Frostfield Plate if needed), but this will help keep semi-carries in check during mid-game. It will also be somewhat anti-Sol's Bulwark, reducing the impact of that item's -Armor aura in fights when it comes to receiving auto attacks. An additional use for Strength Bracer instead of just Astrolabe may also impact the starting items players may use.


Thanks for reading. Looking forward to your comments!


Edit:

Concerns:
-Bracer stats transfer to Frostfield Plate. Currently gives a lot of +INT from Acolyte's Staff, and is just fine that way. (Brought up by the awesome Drasha!)

[[SBT]Leyst]

[ghnurbles]

Are you suggesting that the item Platemail should be removed altogether?

[[S2]Dawnbringer]

The activation is way too weak for the mana cost and cooldown and the item itself leaves a lot to be desired for the cost.

[[IaF]Skyve]

With the stats your item has, and considering the cost and the cost of the recipe for FFP it would be more elegant to use the new sacrificial stone and remove the FFP recipe.

[Katieeee]

Are you suggesting that the item Platemail should be removed altogether?

Yep. The only additional use it had was a buildup into Demonic Breastplate, and that was replaced by Sol's Bulwark. :P

Edit:

With the stats your item has, and considering the cost and the cost of the recipe for FFP it would be more elegant to use the new sacrificial stone and remove the FFP recipe.

So instead do Acolyte's + Sac Stone = Frostfield? That's definitely a good idea to me. :3

[ghnurbles]

With the stats your item has, and considering the cost and the cost of the recipe for FFP it would be more elegant to use the new sacrificial stone and remove the FFP recipe.

Not really. The concept of inheritance is applied to all of HoN's items (if an item is used as a component for another item, then all of its stats and effects are carried across to the new item) so in that regard I would say making Sacrificial Stone (an item with multiple effects) into a component of Frostfield (an item with a completely different effect), is rather awkward.

I like the idea of having an additional recipe for Fortified Bracer, and Soulscream Ring also, to match the extra recipe Amulet of Exile has gained. However I think there are better approaches to Platemail than simply removing it, and for that reason would rather see Frostfield Plate untouched.

[Katieeee]

I like the idea of having an additional recipe for Fortified Bracer, and Soulscream Ring also, to match the extra recipe Amulet of Exile has gained. However I think there are better approaches to Platemail than simply removing it, and for that reason would rather see Frostfield Plate untouched.

Yeah, there's probably a better solution to be thought of for both Fortified/Soulscream and the Platemail thing to be thought of. Back to the thinking board!


Thanks for the input everyone. :3

[[Mira]Pow3rFr34K]

Hmm, ME GUSTA I love the idea, but with this item implemented, Platemail will become, well, useless(unless my suggestions or some other ones which I saw get implemented as well ). It will be a really great addition to the mid game(we need a LOT more mid-game items) and it won't change the stats of FFP THAT much.
All in all, great idea Katieeee ^_^!
P.S. I do NOT want them to remove Platemail from the game and I hope that IF this makes it into the game, they will add more items with Platemail :3
P.P.S. You should change the Platemail in your items for making the item to Ringmail, just saying :3

[Raina_]

So. It's a tonned down FFP so it gets picked up more? FFP in general is a situational item and i've only seen certain heroes like Magmus, Behemoth get it for the extra aoe + stats. I think your idea could be a suitable rework for the current FFP. My concern is Platemail will have no upgrade like Void Talismen and that the extra utility of the magic damage and true sight upon activation is gone with it. Although nobody would get FFP purely to counter stealth heroes! Another concern is, the implemention of this item could/will shift the current meta a new meta, both of more ganking and making it harder for enemy to ganks. As it can fairly decrease the auto attack dps of enemy heroes.

For 1400 gold it's pretty good. Only flaw is, it's really easy to make and too cheap for its benefits in my opinion.. Early to mid game, the raw stats and extra armor would be beneficial for tanks, supports and espicially anti carries. I don't have any suggestions but i'll vote yes, but needs adjustments. :P

Just realised, maybe you could change the components.

[[ix3]Baer]

I like the idea of this item. But I hate receipes :/
Also Frostfield plate will get a cheap component(s), doesn't sound good either.

[[LBI]Melto]

Why not, but should be tweaked, I agree with you that Plate should be removed...

[skowt]

I'll pass on this honestly. I don't see it being that useful. Needs some tweaks or something.

[[SBT]Rkey]

Make the recipe upgrade it?

[[YARG]Rosgath]

Not really. The concept of inheritance is applied to all of HoN's items . . .

Strictly speaking this is not true. Sol's Bulwark does not provide as much armor to the bearer prior to complete as the components do. This also does not apply to Ring of the Teacher, though in that case the % mana regen is changed to static value mana regen instead so it's mostly a technicality. This was also not true with the Blood Chalice until last patch.

Edit: Also a while back if you look at the patch notes you'll notice that Hellflower didn't have it's component stats either.

[ghnurbles]

Strictly speaking this is not true. Sol's Bulwark does not provide as much armor to the bearer prior to complete as the components do. This also does not apply to Ring of the Teacher, though in that case the % mana regen is changed to static value mana regen instead so it's mostly a technicality. This was also not true with the Blood Chalice until last patch.

Edit: Also a while back if you look at the patch notes you'll notice that Hellflower didn't have it's component stats either.

The majority of the stats and effects are there though. Inheritance does not mean an exact copy of what was there before, simply its influence.