Bloodhunter ult and Geometer's bane

[Krishen]

How come Geo's doesn't remove the bloodhunter ult debuff, is this intended?

[Hubaris]

Bloodhunter's Ultimate is not a debuff. It has no effecttype.

name="State_Hunter_Ability4"

icon="icon.tga"
    
passiveeffect="effects/gush.effect"

Geometer's Bane only dispels things that have effecttype="StatusDebuff" or effecttype="StatusBuff"

<onimpact>
        <dispel type="StatusBuff" />
        <dispel type="StatusDebuff" />
        <disjoint target="this_owner_entity" />
        <orderdisjoint target="this_owner_entity" />
        <applystate name="State_GeometersBane_Self" duration="100"/>
        <spawnillusion 
            target="this_owner_entity" 
            count="2" 
            spawncircular="true" 
            spawncircularradius="100" 
            spawncircularrotate="false" 
            lifetime="20000" 
            receivedamagemultiplier="3.5" 
            inflictdamagemultiplier="0.33" 
            spawneffect="multiple_images.effect" 
            deatheffect="multiple_images_death.effect" 
        />
        <clearteamtarget />
    </onimpact>

So yes, it is intended.

[ChillyWater]

Hubaris... How are you so amazing?

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

Bloodhunter's Ultimate is not a debuff. It has no effecttype.

name="State_Hunter_Ability4"

icon="icon.tga"
    
passiveeffect="effects/gush.effect"

Geometer's Bane only dispels things that have effecttype="StatusDebuff" or effecttype="StatusBuff"

So yes, it is intended.

Erm, nothing in your code shows this :P

casteffect=""  
casteffecttype="SuperiorMagic"

Here you go, the effect is "" aka no effect and the effect type is superior magic, aka that is the damage type.

casteffect = type of skill
casteffecttype = type of damage dealt by skill

Technically, there is an effecttype but no type of effect.

[girard`]

Technically, there is an effecttype but no type of effect.

And you just confused the thousands.

^_^

[[S2]ElementUser]

And you just confused the thousands.

^_^

What he meant was that there's a cast effect type (this effect type only applies on cast), but the state's effect type is blank.

[girard`]

What he meant was that there's a cast effect type (this effect type only applies on cast), but the state's effect type is blank.

I know what he meant...

Non-English speakers, etc. might not know what he meant.

[Hubaris]

@SmufinBird What I showed was the State Header. Inside there was no effecttype="" so I didn't put it in. I refuse to misquote even with the use of (sic) and such :P

He wasn't talking about the target type or else I would have used the ability file. He was wondering why the state wasn't being dispelled.

For the full Hunter/Ability_04/state.entity file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<state
    name="State_Hunter_Ability4"

    icon="icon.tga"
    
    passiveeffect="effects/gush.effect"
>
    <onframe>
        <damage amount="0.25,0.5,0.75" b="movement" op="mult" effecttype="SuperiorMagic DOT" />
    </onframe>
    
    
    <modifier key="Alt" modpriority="1"
        passiveeffect="/heroes/hunter/alt/ability_04/effects/gush.effect"
    >
        <onframe>
            <damage amount="0.25,0.5,0.75" b="movement" op="mult" effecttype="SuperiorMagic DOT" />
        </onframe>
    </modifier>
</state>

See the header actually has nothing in it, no effect type, nothing. So I assume it defaults to effecttype=(null) or "".

I should have used an example with another effect type but it was 4AM and I just logged off work.

@ChillyWater, I do this stuff for a living. I'm used to scripting XML and other fun UML related jargon.

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

@SmufinBird What I showed was the State Header. Inside there was no effecttype="" so I didn't put it in. I refuse to misquote even with the use of (sic) and such :P

He wasn't talking about the target type or else I would have used the ability file. He was wondering why the state wasn't being dispelled.

For the full Hunter/Ability_04/state.entity file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<state
    name="State_Hunter_Ability4"

    icon="icon.tga"
    
    passiveeffect="effects/gush.effect"
>
    <onframe>
        <damage amount="0.25,0.5,0.75" b="movement" op="mult" effecttype="SuperiorMagic DOT" />
    </onframe>
    
    
    <modifier key="Alt" modpriority="1"
        passiveeffect="/heroes/hunter/alt/ability_04/effects/gush.effect"
    >
        <onframe>
            <damage amount="0.25,0.5,0.75" b="movement" op="mult" effecttype="SuperiorMagic DOT" />
        </onframe>
    </modifier>
</state>

See the header actually has nothing in it, no effect type, nothing. So I assume it defaults to effecttype=(null) or "".

I should have used an example with another effect type but it was 4AM and I just logged off work.

@ChillyWater, I do this stuff for a living. I'm used to scripting XML and other fun UML related jargon.

You were indeed looking in the state.entity, however it is more common in HoN for the state.entity to be applied by another file (in my experience, a projectile skill such as this always has the casteffect in the ability.entity and not the state.entity)

I don't believe there's a skill in HoN that doesn't state the casteffect if it applies a casteffect (I don't know of a skill that has a null effect without stating casteffect="")

http://hondiff.appspot.com/highlight...ity.entity?xml

     name="Ability_Hunter4"
     icon="icon.tga"
     anim="ability_4"
     casttime="1000"
     castactiontime="500"
     statuseffecttooltip="State_Hunter_Ability4"
     casteffect=""

No misquoting here, sir!

[Hubaris]

Oh for sure. The application is one thing, but the state's type itself is another in most cases. Also, I had no clue until today that Blood Hunter ultimate was a projectile. The more you know it seems!

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

Oh for sure. The application is one thing, but the state's type itself is another in most cases. Also, I had no clue until today that Blood Hunter ultimate was a projectile. The more you know it seems!

It used to be disjointable (around beta times?)

True, I like to check all of the files before saying it does or doesn't have a piece of code - there seems no hard and fast rule to where it all is called.