Ok as you know there are sometimes heroes who receive a nerf in the balance patch which makes him either get dumpstered into trash tier or too weak to be useful in competitive play and i wanted to make a list which nerfs were (imo) made that he became so weak. i would thank everyone to help me because i might be wrong. it's just my guess so here i start. btw yes i know it is also a change in meta game which made some heroes disappear but thats not my intention
removing the movement speed slow from toxicity
the remove of his stun of barrel roll but after that i saw him in some games but still dont know why he disappeared
reducing the damage of his spells
dont know why but i remember he was often picked by fnatic in trilane meta (former MSI)
remove of his backhook
this hero received so many nerfs but is still picked because of his usefulness but the nerf to his ulti was really strong
afaik it was her disco inferno which was nerfed hard
his minions can't attack anymore if he is too far away + he cant spawn more if he has minions living, dont know if he was picked before his rework
his ulti could not be activated when stunned or silenced
his nerf of take cover + pk was needed but sometimes he is still picked
dont know what it was just remembering that testie often picked him and facerolled over the enemy
all his spells got nerfed but still a usefull pick
afaik he only received buffs over the last 2 years but was picked by fnatic
he was also picked but dont know which nerfed made him disappear
her Q and E were incredibly strong but now she seems too weak
nerf to his passive + that he couldnt ulti when he was immobilized before that he was often first ban / pick
dont know what it was
his puppet show once disabled heroes completly so they couldnt even move or use shrunken + removing of his base dmg at whipslash
nerf to his dissipate + deserted and that illusions dont use attack modifiers anymore
after the rework of his hero turret he still was strong because his keg had a huge range and his turret did physical dmg + his ulti did a ton more dmg
obv his agi steal
dont know why
before he became strong again his tornados did a lot more damage + even to towers
at lot of nerfs but imo it was the remove of his superior magic dmg in his ulti and the damage of his splash
ashes to ashes doesnt apply when hit by creeps and it doesnt do true dmg anymore
the nerf of lightning rod and blast of lightning made him too weak
dont know what it was before his rework but there was a huge nerf which put him into trash tier
her ultimate which created an illusion and made her invis
the nerf of his sticky bomb
many nerfs dont know which was important
imo it was that he couldnt crit anymore while using blade frenzy
fissure + ulti
too many nerfs but still a could pick
his mounds + shudder and his passive could now be blocked by shrunken head
increase of the manacost of his spells
never understood why he was considered overpowered just remember this one game where fujiapples facerolled over the enemy with him at 200 APM i think it was needed because he was too strong combined witch old blood chalice + his ulti gained charges faster
the heroes i dont listed were not picked or are still picked atm. so feel free to correct me if something is wrong. @mods if there is a thread pls post a link to it pls. thanks
Last edited by raeque; 07-30-2012 at 04:44 PM.
I'm not going to point out all the wrong information in there.
Looking at that list they have what, 10 heros to pick from? It's all about flavour of the month anyway. Someone does good with DL, suddenly DL is OP and everyone is playing her until she goes out of style for 8 months.
Alot of these are due to changes in the meta game and the release of new heroes that do the job better. Some of the heroes require a large amount of farm to become effective and another hero in the pool can do the same job or better with the same amount of farm. Some are squishy with no escape mech so they pick others that are safer.
You better remove bubbles from that list, it's almost like saying fa isn't picked much anymore.
They removed slither's toxicity slow? When the hell did this happen and how did I miss it o.O
Mad Man dropped right after he went from 6s to 7s on invis.
Keeper lost damage on creeps (loss of dps, XP, GPM, etc.).
Well I don't feel like correcting all of these, some seem like troll bait because they make up mechanics that don't exist.
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Sometimes heroes are just not picked because they don't fit into the current metagame or because people are too lazy to adapt to new/changed heroes.
Toxicity was nerfed and buffed at the same time. It's not an attack modifier anymore... He's still a strong hero, but he's out of competitive play because Trixi went to that other game :P
Reading this made me lose a few brain cells.
if you honestly think that single nerfs to heroes make's them non-competative then you are seriously mistaken and need to do your homework kid.
Most just don't get picked cause they don't fit the meta. Not because they got nerfed.
inb4 u mad brah
As others have pointed out, most of it is due to chages in used strats and flavour of the month heroes. Furthermore I have seen plenty of those heroes during the dreamhon tournament. Which I suspect is due to lock pick! Well done S2