Assist mechanic

[SinisterMJ]

Hi, I was wondering what you have to do to get an assist?
I have had a game yesterday where I think I should have been credited with an assist (since I hit the opponent once a second before he died), yet did not receive it.

ID: 96124256
Time: 9:30 replay counter, 6:30 in game counter

I hit a Witch Slayer who has 64 HP, and he goes to 10 HP from my hit, and dies directly after that. Why did I not get an assist there, I don't understand that?
I was playing Tempest.

[[E]CoreMal]

Without watching the reply I am pretty sure you have to deal a certain % of his health. Any spell usage grants assit though

[Jezu]

I believe you get an assist for hitting the enemy with a skill or damaging him - you don't need to deal a certain amount of damage.

After watching the replay, I'm going to need a confirm on that however. At first I thought WS died from another source within the same frame, but he clearly lost HP from your hit before dying nearly half a second later. Might be a bug too.

[[S2]ElementUser]

Needs 10% of enemy's max HP dealt by you OR apply a StatusDebuff/StatusDisable on them

[Jezu]

Needs 10% of enemy's max HP dealt by you

You learn something new every day

[Hubaris]

How long does the Assist last for EU? Is it 16 seconds?

[SinisterMJ]

Ah, okay, thanks, did not know that you need at least a certain % of damage done.

[[S2]ElementUser]

How long does the Assist last for EU? Is it 16 seconds?

20 seconds according to game _settings.cfg, added this to the FAQ

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

20 seconds according to game _settings.cfg, added this to the FAQ

Since the thread is now "answered" and this is a related question; is the time to continue a killing "combo" (doubletap, hatrick etc) 18 seconds still?

EDIT: Thanks, I haven't played in a while and hadn't read patchnotes.

[[S2]ElementUser]

Yes.

Set "g_multiKillTime" "18000"

[[STLI]Doomhammar]

Just one more question, I saw panda use Flick on hero and he did not get an assits from it. Flick applies debuff so it should give assists. WaS? or not

[[S2]ElementUser]

The target could've died in midair, the debuff is applied after the target lands.

[[DrE]robbiek1]

Element Y U SO SMART!?

~Robbie

[[RC2W]Omega]

Just showing appreciation here... answered questions I had as well. Good to add it to the FAQ

As for panda's flick, its too bad that one chipper rocket gets an assist, but half a flick won't.

Thanks EU!

[[IaF]Skyve]

Needs 10% of enemy's max HP dealt by you OR apply a StatusDebuff/StatusDisable on them

Interesting. I'm currently watching some competitive game with Berzerker in it and he used his third skill onto a target (but didn't hit it otherwise) and he didn't get any assist.

[[S2]ElementUser]

It's not a debuff, despite what the file name is. A debuff is specified in the entity file and not by the name of the entity file.

[Hubaris]

Example:

Berserker Mark For Death (E)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<state 
    name="State_Berzerker_Ability3_Debuff" 

    icon="icon.tga" 
    passiveeffect="effects/marked.effect" 

    ishidden="false"
    effecttype=""
    
    revealed="true"
    sighted="true"
    
>
     
</state>

Vindicator Final Chapter (R)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<state
    name="State_Vindicator_Ability4"
    passiveeffect="effects/state.effect"
    
    icon="icon.tga"
    
    silenced="true"
    
    effecttype="StatusDebuff"
    allowtransfer="true"
>
</state>

The Effect Type is shown as a Status Debuff for Final Chapter but has no type for Mark. This also is what gives you Red/Blue/Green Borders (Debuff/Notype/Buff respectively); and determines what can be Purged by Electrician and Nullfire Blade.

EDIT: Now if people were less dumb about building heroes, they would know that with a Frostwolf Skull, Mark For Death applies a ranged slow on cast and DOES allow him to snag assists ;D .


EDIT 2: Compare Mark For Death (E) with a similar spell... Pestilence Swarm (R)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<state
	name="State_Pestilence_Ability4"
	
	icon="icon.tga"
	passiveeffect="effects/state.effect"
	revealed="true"
	sighted="true"
	
	armor="-5,-10,-15"
	
	effecttype="StatusDebuff"
	allowtransfer="true"
>