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    What im doing wrong? 1400mmr

    hi! Before I was around 1600 points where I came to play a solo mm. Then I got a losing streak and dropped below the 1500th however tried to play can not go out over the 1500th 5-6 of 10 games is a leaver or someone in the team has to feed

    some match: 95881732 im nomad mid
    95829885 im empath laning with chrono
    95824979 im bub laling with elonia cuz pred dont wanna go on lane + not a single word frome elonia whole game not a single ward


    sry for english its a google translate xD

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    Maybe your not good enough to go higher than 1400. You have to realize that if your actually better you will win more than 50% of the games and gain mmr. I think you should watch some streams and see what they do different than you, maybe you will learn something crucial and get better.

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    i watch streams and like i say i was 1600

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    Since HoN is a teamgame you got to rely on ur team etc etc, but in the 1500 bracket ur playing with the clueless and the new.
    What you have to do is either play mid and dominate mid game, if you can't do that you have to dominate with something else.
    Usually when I go on a losing streak I pick Legionaire, this way I don't rely on my laning partner, we have 2 solo lanes = more exp in team and good ganking potential.

    Other then that pick a carry, farm and win (make sure ur team doesn't get demolished in the meantime).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzer View Post
    i watch streams and like i say i was 1600
    You were carried to 1600s just like you said. When you started to solo you dropped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackwell1 View Post
    You were carried to 1600s just like you said. When you started to solo you dropped...
    nah. with solo mm i go to 1600 but can u atlast watch some replay and say something ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzer View Post
    nah. with solo mm i go to 1600 but can u atlast watch some replay and say something ....
    Sorry but I cant access to hon client now, but I can give you some advice. The easiest way to win games solo is to pick a strong hero who can win many lanes alone and preferably play mid. Heroes like torturer, devourer, defiler, ophelia and dampeer can win games alone but you have to be better than your opponents to do so. I would also recommend you to read FJ's black code which you can find here http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...The-black-code There is alot to read, but if you read it and put those things into practice you should be able to get into 1700s.
    Last edited by Ackwell1; 07-22-2012 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackwell1 View Post
    Maybe your not good enough to go higher than 1400. You have to realize that if your actually better you will win more than 50% of the games and gain mmr. I think you should watch some streams and see what they do different than you, maybe you will learn something crucial and get better.
    This is true acwell, but I feel it's just said to much and starts to lose it's relevance.

    I see this premise all the time. What I think most people do not realize is that this matters to a degree, 1 player alone can't change a game not consecutively at least anything can happen, from your team starting to fail, to your opposition being deceivingly better players which has a tendency to happen with F2P, but like you said if you're better than the opposition you will be able to win 50% more.

    Sometimes It could be the team, or the player. I honestly just think there is a lot more to consider than telling someone to check out a few streams. This is without a doubt a good job, but it isn't going to make your team act the way you want them to or win you games when you want.

    It's like I can't get pubs to adapt a competitive /high tier wanna be mind set by warding and playing the way I play which can obviously win more.

    Even a bad player with a team who can synergize on that individual's level or on their's can be the star of the team just because of how well they can execute together, where as in pubs things are more likely to fail since they are unpredictable.


    For example, low players may complain about supports or anyone not doing their job in like the 1400 brackets, where as in the 1700+ bracket supports will always do their job.

    People's level of gameplay can fluctuate depending on their teammates.

    This is why most ignorant players who call me a 1400 and feel the need to stat how their stats are better than mines(I'm talking real 1700 players with the stats to show they are worthy 1700 players rather than just being PSR/MMR carried) have a tendency to receive the rear end of my stick with a nasty 20/3/15 as long as I'm with my friends who play at my level or a team who can work well with me, and the OP clearly stated it is a solo problem.

    Even though I don't do much stats because of my leavers, i guess playing 3 years has changed my skill overall and can easily say that I play at a late 1600s level. Some games are easy for me to roll over with any hero as long as I play better than the opposition, sometimes I meet my match and lose, I don't know what to think anymore ever since F2P hit.
    Last edited by Rhayne; 07-22-2012 at 02:13 PM.

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    #8 u should totally rename u in Rhaynebow
    but to op

    i watched ur game with nomad against chronos mid

    u did many small mistakes that added up to u losing the lane (and ur lane enemy was not really a threat)

    for example u went back up ur hill 800 range away from creeps just to write "so lucky" or something to him and letting get a few bonus creepkills

    and also dont rage at ur team when u die by them not saying miss (i think the guy who killed u was in ur forest anyways)
    that wont change anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daaaaaaaark View Post
    #8 u should totally rename u in Rhaynebow
    but to op

    i watched ur game with nomad against chronos mid

    u did many small mistakes that added up to u losing the lane (and ur lane enemy was not really a threat)

    for example u went back up ur hill 800 range away from creeps just to write "so lucky" or something to him and letting get a few bonus creepkills

    and also dont rage at ur team when u die by them not saying miss (i think the guy who killed u was in ur forest anyways)
    that wont change anything

    This rings another good point Daaaaaark. I hate it when people blame/Rely on MIA calls, it's like hon's greatest illusion, some people get totally out of position or lack attention and get killed then feel they have the right to blame another person from the lane while calling MIA is viable for you and your teammates it is not mandatory, and can't be called at all times. I find it annoying how I am willing to call MIA even though I lose all respect for people who blame others for it, but then While I'm ganking a lane or simply lose focus for a moment and my lane opposition goes to gank the enemy and get blamed, that's what pisses me off.

    To be honest, I feel if people didn't rely on MIA and rage they would become better players, It worked for me. Just like some people say that "you should realize you're bad first then you'll improve" while I'm not willing to take that sorta "insulting way of constructive critisicm" I am willing to realize that it is my fault when I get ganked no matter what.
    Last edited by Rhayne; 07-22-2012 at 04:08 PM.

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    on this game with nomad i had 0 wards whole game ..... chrono get 2 kills (1 with parasit in combo and 1 with rune dd )on me but i farm more than he farm. i tryed to roam but they have warded and at end kinesis feed draconius and than leave the game. my team didn't even try to communicate with me

    i played around 2k games i have 1 acc on 1600 too, but this acc is full with all heroes .That's why I continued to play this acc
    Last edited by Buzer; 07-22-2012 at 04:05 PM.

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    why rhayne writes in rainbow colors?you have no idea how much it burns my eyes.still i like it.
    anyway,i found out that playing gamechanging heroes with which you can also support do the job pretty well,heroes that your team need.example is magmus.you have a stun which is good anytime in the game,big aoe damage(and all you need is a pkey),you can and must ward etc.i wanted to try a bit of ophelia,but i still have to train before trying her.usually balphagore does the job as he is a 1 man army.
    i went to 1600 my first time after a 8 game streak in which i played mostily supports,or simply warded.these 1500 dudes have no idea where and when to place wards,and what every ward position does.I love mapcontrol,and it is so useful that i ward myself.
    Last edited by Clytemnestra; 07-22-2012 at 04:10 PM.

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    i know and i usualy play suport or tank but just sometimes carry. just finished game with 17 1 score with not a single ward but next 3 games will be leavers or feeders so i will again lose mmr again

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    so... watched the beginning of your nomad game.
    you do not utilize your hatchet until 1:12 min in lane, you miss many of your last hits (and your lane enemy wasn't amazing at it).
    more over, you get out of your way to get harassed and get hit by creeps, lets say around 2 min when chronos hits you like 5 times and you are just trying to get a creep kill.
    you have a very strong harass for 1on1, the distance skill thingy, and you don't use it, half the time you stand next to chronos and you're just shaking hands

    also about runes, if he got it he got it, just let it go man, no need to lose exp and die

    raging on your bot lane about you getting killed? what the hell? it's parasite.
    if your team doesn't ward, you do it...
    this will sound offensive: if you're a 2K player, i'm very happy to be informed that even i can get to 2K

    have a great day

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