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    why doesn't panda shift queue work? (flick + stun combo)

    i'm not sure if there are some other skills which cancels shift queue, but when i play panda and use the flick, the queued actions after the flick is cancelled. for example, this doesn't work: flick->shift->stun

    whilst it is not a big deal, i think we should be able to shift the flick stun combo. is it cause it'll make it too easy? its not hard without shift queue, but i thought it'd be easier with it. cause right now i spam the e button after flick in order to get the stun off as quickly as possible.

    any thoughts on this matter?

    edit: you can't actually press the stun while the flick animation is on. when the stun spell is available after flick, you will use it when you click on wherever you want to stun. this means spamming won't actually help final positioning as the green aoe won't pop up during the flick

    what i do is flick--> immediately place mouse on the place i want to stun after flick --> spam e ---> when green aoe pops up i left click on the spot.
    Last edited by ZespriKiwi; 07-16-2012 at 10:56 PM.

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    Same for legionaire -> charge -> taunt, but that was awhile ago when I tested it.
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    charge taunt shift queue is possible :X

    edit: i think charge taunt shift queue didn't work at first. then s2 changed it
    Last edited by ZespriKiwi; 07-16-2012 at 06:02 AM.

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    Shift modifier never worked for me on skill (like legio combo)

    however i can queue my movements (with the flags) so really, what's my problem then?

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    It's not needed with shifting on pandas combo, a hero that u might need it for is monkey king. I'm out, PEACE!

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    I think shift queuing on panda would be useless anyway since you need to cancel the flick animation else it will take way to long till he stuns. Kinda like if you just blink with Hag and then just ult without moving in between. Takes her ages to ult then.
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    Legio's shift queue works only if you did this order when he was in the range of the charge (automovement+charge+taunt combo doesn't work). Fixed by shift queuing again when he started charging (so he taunts for sure).

    Panda's shift queue doesn't work even if he's in the range of flick (even if you shift queue while flicking) for some reason.
    Last edited by Orachin; 07-16-2012 at 06:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrelated View Post
    I think shift queuing on panda would be useless anyway since you need to cancel the flick animation else it will take way to long till he stuns. Kinda like if you just blink with Hag and then just ult without moving in between. Takes her ages to ult then.
    initially thats what i thought. but then when i went to practice mode i realised that you can't really cancel his flick animation. he will always lift the bamboo above his chest no matter how many times you spam the right click. if you try this: panda with 6 charged hammer and just flick a person, he will instantly attack after his flick. which makes me think that there is real no delay after his flick (hence if he can shift queue his stun then he should be able to do it in the quickest manner like spamming the stun after flick). but then again i dont really play panda so i might be wrong

    edit: i think the hag you mentioned is a bit different. for hag you can press blink then immediately press ult (which will cause a very long delay for the ult). however for panda the skill buttons are disabled so you can't press the stun skill immediately or during the flick. after the flick, you can cast any skill and it will immediately go off.
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    Rampage Q + R shift queue doesnt also work for me

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    why would you want to shiftqueue flick+stun since while the flick animation goes on,you have time to press stun?
    it's not the same as mk or legio where you don't want to miss your YAAARRRR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clytemnestra View Post
    why would you want to shiftqueue flick+stun since while the flick animation goes on,you have time to press stun?
    it's not the same as mk or legio where you don't want to miss your YAAARRRR
    the thing is you can't press stun while the animation goes on

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZespriKiwi View Post
    the thing is you can't press stun while the animation goes on
    You can spam it, actually. The final positioning should be even better due to your minor fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orachin View Post
    You can spam it, actually. The final positioning should be even better due to your minor fixes.
    yeaa thats the only option. but i just thought it seems weird how i can't shift queue it and instead i need to rape the e button

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    now i remembered i actually rape the e button too.but i guess it lands better than shiftQ-ing

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    I think it has to do with latching on to gadgets, similar to valk's leap. Also, MK's 3rd.

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    I would assume that it's because once the target is flicked, they "disappear" for a moment. If the target of a shift-queue becomes untargettable due to vision (and maybe immunity), it's cancelled right there as the next action is no longer possible. That's just a guess.

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    Sometimes when I'm being lazy with Monkey King and try to shift-queue his combo wombo,it wouldn't work and he'd go herp-derping around the enemy, instead of performing any action...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orachin View Post
    You can spam it, actually. The final positioning should be even better due to your minor fixes.
    actually i double checked. you can't actually press the stun while the flick animation is on. when the stun spell is available after flick, you will use it when you click on wherever you want to stun. this means spamming won't actually help final positioning as the green aoe won't pop up during the flick

    edit: what i do is flick--> immediately place mouse on the place i want to stun after flick --> spam e ---> when green aoe pops up i left click on the spot.
    Last edited by ZespriKiwi; 07-16-2012 at 10:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZespriKiwi View Post
    actually i double checked. you can't actually press the stun while the flick animation is on. when the stun spell is available after flick, you will use it when you click on wherever you want to stun. this means spamming won't actually help final positioning as the green aoe won't pop up during the flick

    edit: what i do is flick--> immediately place mouse on the place i want to stun after flick --> spam e ---> when green aoe pops up i left click on the spot.
    that's how we all do it actually,not sure if it is mage/hag if it has time to blink away or not.(i guess sometimes they can?)

    Quote Originally Posted by djulioo View Post
    Sometimes when I'm being lazy with Monkey King and try to shift-queue his combo wombo,it wouldn't work and he'd go herp-derping around the enemy, instead of performing any action...

    So...
    this usually happens if the target enters the fog exactly when mk must do his combo.it is annoying as he will slam once and do nothing else(since he can't vault he will do the next possible action) OR,you shiftQ-ed mk to move to a position then combo,you panic since you don't do the combo because of that and you cancel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mernie View Post
    Shift modifier never worked for me on skill (like legio combo)

    however i can queue my movements (with the flags) so really, what's my problem then?
    Can you guys plz not ignore my post plz. serious question is serious.

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