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sorry did i sounded upset?Originally Posted by `Kung
because i thought i have been polite enough there.
by the way on topic : if people don't buy wards you just need to buy yours,simple. wards costs a 100g ,not really much of a problem unless you can't farm properly
Last edited by kingdomlord; 07-16-2012 at 08:37 AM.
Which might be a problem for one who is at 1300-1400 rating. Also yeah, telling him he is 'unable to accept criticism' and that you don't think he DESERVES to get better might come off as a bit upset. Especially when it's about him not warding as Pebbles.
Edit: Also you should probably do as you preach, or you know, not preach at all. 0.1 wardrate in 100 games dosn't add up withif people don't buy wards you just need to buy yours,simple. wards costs a 100g.
Last edited by `Kung; 07-16-2012 at 10:45 AM.
The only problem I have with warding as mid is that once I get that 600 for the bottle, most of the time the courier isn't upgraded, so it's a good 20 seconds before I actually get it. In that time, sure I can get a ward, but if I can get my bottle sub 2 minutes, with a warded rune I can get the first rune spawn and hopefully go gank already. By having to buy a ward, unless I'm helbourne side, it's just a small hassle I don't want to worry about while mid.
the problem is there is nowhere defined how good should one be to be better then the bracket.. since in 1200-1400 bracket i met people who get 0-38 with magebane on otherside i also met people who stomp whole enemy with ophelia stacking all creep camps at once... and solo pushing to enemy base....
also it seems that people here a bit clueless about how 1200-1400 game look likes i would love to see how would many of you outplay people with 7.20 tsr at such low brackets.. with obv skills from 1800 brackets... just chek player http://www.honedge.com/dragondejavu 1220 mmr 1798 psr and thats one of many low bracket pros...
Last edited by StaticNova; 07-16-2012 at 01:35 PM.
1800 PSR =/= 1800 MMR.
Should be able to stomp his way out. Sorry, but this "0-38" magebane is also on the enemy team. I can't imagine there being smurfs in your bracket, so thats a factor taken out. So what's the deal? You just have to get better. I used to think it was my team, then I realized I was doing stupid **** too. I bet if someone went through a replay( which I'll do now since I have time ) they can list you mistakes that you do.
Sorry but you definitely belong in this bracket. I watched the first 15 minutes or so and you are a troll.
At the beginning of the game you were pretending to be afk and claimed to be a new player, telling your team that you don't know how to play. You went long lane panda with a blitz, and you let arachna and martyr get first blood on him. You were running away with full hp full mana no CD's, watching as your blitz was being pounded on. Then blitz asked you what the **** you were doing you said "I'm scared." Afterwards martyr started roaming you let arachna live for WAAAY too long. Blitz + panda would easily be able to kill an arachna with that many stuns. You let arachna harass you constantly and did nothing about it. You miss quite a fair amount of CK. Then you finally killed her 2v1, and went back to farming. You had free farm a bit but you still missed some CK. You decided to go a power supply against arachna(I'm not sure if her slow gives you any charges to that) which is w/e. But blitz left and you can still easily kill arachna with your ult. You didn't even put a point in flick ,you decided to max Flurry and yoru stun. Your stun is quite easy to dodge without any other disables(I don't think I've seen you land it once on your own without someone elses disable) Then you proceeded to farming. You didn't help out your mid lane who was 1v3'ing (they all had low hp) you just stayed in your lane. Not that big of a deal but a wasted opportunity. You claimed that stacking camps and roaming was a strategy from the 1800 bracket (???). You also went a runed on panda. I'm not too big of a panda expert but I'm sure a null+ chalice would've given you enough mana to use flurry for creep waves. In all honesty, I think you belong in your bracket.
well its as you said.. except ur interpretation doesnt fit mine... i am a noob and i was rly scared so whats wrong with it? thats why i need mentor... and i didnt did it vs arachna i did it vs martyr and grave keeper.... runed on panda is excelent stuff
ye maybe because i started to undertand the importance of warding just few time ago and not buying ward is a bad habit to die,you want to argue me because i'm unpolite and you are telling me "do as you preach",well sounds like a could say the same.
anyway i have never said he doesn't deserve to get better i said that it SEEMS he is unable to accept criticism and that MAYBE he doesn't deserve a MENTOR nor he need it,if he is so ferrated on the basics he should be able to move on from low-mid brackets,the only possible reason i see not to be moving on is that MAYBE he need to be more polite with his team mates.
nice try getting my sats into the post,but honestly to have a real point of wiew on my way to play you should watch at least my last 10 matches,wich i assume you
didn't
edit: ok just saw generalnoob's post and i guess he might really need a mentor,but last static's nova post seems to confirm he is not a criticism-friendly person
Last edited by kingdomlord; 07-16-2012 at 07:55 PM.
Went out and played him. Nullstone + chalice was all teh mana i ever needed to farm with flurry. Runed was definitely a waste. Panda needs survivability, something runed can't provide. Even a BKB + chalice and some mana pots would be better than a runed. Heck I could be wrong, but I don't see why you would get runed on him.
runed is cheaper then null and when i get it i clean few stacked camps and bang got bkb if i made null my flurry would be weak.. and id farm slowly
I was sitting at 400 GPM clearing creep waves not stacked camps. AFK farmed with a TP and pushed when we needed to. I'd imagine it'd be the same though? Your flurry is powerful either way, it's not weak. I think an avid panda player should give some insight on this though, I could be wrong. You'd be considered a glass cannon with a battlefury, lots of damage but easy to kill.
You don't need Runed Axe for farming purposes since you have Flurry alredy.
Generally Steamboots/Ghost -> Substainer -> Shrunkenhead -> Nullstone -> Heart is what you go for.
Obviously always getting a Nullstone every game isn't aways the correct decision, so you may have to try and change the build up a bit, depending on what you need for that specific game. Sol's bulwark / Daemonic isn't a bad choice either if you want to squeeze that in there somewhere.
I think you need to listen to other peoples' advice more and try think about if they are right. Being stubborn and refusing to change means you will never get out of 1300 bracket. Stop and try think about it. You might realise something you though was for sure correct is in fact wrong. It happens to me alot.
That said, I am willing to mentor some games if you want to learn (not that im very good ... around 1650). Add me if you want
explain please i dotn get it...
What do you not understand...? You use flurry to farm creeps and neutrals. 4 Flurries = 1 creep wave, and that becomes lower as you become more farmed.
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how does that work o.o??
Here you go again. I don't think you deserve any help. Stop trolling people.
flurry=aoe
cannonball=aoe
aoe kills creeps
==>>
flurry+cannonball=dead stacks of creeps=$$$$
$$$=something else than runed axe since you already got aoe
prophet?
This is just another guy who is manipulating stats, he lowered his MMR intentionally and now queues with his 15xx and 16xx friends to get a sure win (since he's really a 16xx/17xx player on a 12xx account, so he's cheating the balance by like 400-500 points). He can stomp the game and get crazy good stats and at the end of the match earns like 0.5 MMR because he's so far below the average MMR.just chek player http://www.honedge.com/dragondejavu 1220 mmr 1798 psr and thats one of many low bracket pros...
Nice exploit, but this guy is not really stuck in 12xx. He does that intentionally. gg S2 for not banning guys doing this.
Last edited by Antimodus; 07-19-2012 at 09:07 AM.
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