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hm,yes bs can combo for big damage but he will stay with 0 mana while mk/fayde stay with 30% hp.a health pot and everything is fine.Originally Posted by Farosarg
Not if he's running bottle and uses the dot properly. Note: Don't use full combo for harass. Use dot only if you are looking to do autoattack damage with the dot or if you are looking to kill with the full combo. Otherwise use only stun for harass because it is a lot more manageable to use with manacost. I've been playing on the both sides of the equation. If MK doesn't rush bottle or keep double-potion, he just can't go to creeps anymore after level 3. BS gets free reign over the creeps and gets his bottle at 2 min, earlier if he gets firstblood which is quite possible.
hm,is it possible to beat devo with bs?i think it might amplify the rot damage.
A decent BS will destroy a Devo. Not sure if it amplifies the damage, but I think it does. I haven't tested it, but I always throw a hammer on a Devo just in case. =)
^This. A good mid player won't let their mana go to 0 unless they are killing someone. Going to 0 mana in mid just to harass is suicide against a good mid opponent.
Also, if it hasn't been pointed out already, BS has crazy high base damage. Monkey King can't touch creeps against a BS who knows how to last hit.
Rot damage is indeed reduced by magic armor and max level hammer reduces his magic armor by 4, making the rot hurt that much more. Devourers hook still hurts but Blacksmith's combo should hurt more and he hits pretty hard as well. So instead of trying to run from the rot you can just combo and attack instead.
which is the reason i was thinking bs owns devo.but i got a little problem when i play polly(or anything with no escape mecha) against devo.if i put a ward on his hill he can't hook me,but what he can do is come near creeps and hook me from there,this considering the creeps are up on his hill and i can't stay behind the creeps.should i wait for the next creepwave and stay as back as possible?or how do i prevent him from hooking me?it is not that he owns me at ck since he will try most of the time to kill me rather than farm,but i would really like to not give him kills.
Oh, I certainly do that, I was just never sure if it did or didn't amplify his Rot damage. (I hate typing about Devourer. I always want to type RoT. lol). I was pretty sure the damage would be amplified so I always throw the hammer regardless of whether or not I was certain. Thanks for clearing that up.
That depends on the situation and match-up. Hero like Polly can harass down pretty hard early on while you stick near the creeps to avoid getting hooked, atleast too easy. Make him feel the hurt nice and early. Later on you might be needing to just nuke from far or spend regens to keep the harass going. If he is low on life he can't initiate because he will lose the hp race. If he plays smart it's somewhat more difficult. Vision is the most important thing around the mid and near runes so you don't get surprised. When he gets his ultimate you gotta be really fast with skills to not get ulted if he can hook or get close to you but most important is probably making sure that you don't die, even if you have to give him more space at that point.
just raped one with salforis haha.still,if he plays smart i can find the only way to beat him when the creeps are on his hill(either i have vision or not) is to wait.otherwise he might come down the hill and try to hook me(which might be hard to dodge since i don't have boots yet).
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