3k Games played but still 1650 rated?

[Graxex]

regardless of your role you still make mistakes.

Have you ever watched a replay of yourself? Find every death and see what you could've done to avoid it, doing stuff like that helps a lot.
Even if your carry never finds farm you can still better yourself.

cool! i will do that!

[[E]Rhayne]

regardless of your role you still make mistakes.

Have you ever watched a replay of yourself? Find every death and see what you could've done to avoid it, doing stuff like that helps a lot.
Even if your carry never finds farm you can still better yourself.

Trying to find ways to better yourself in a situation that was clearly someone's else fault when it happens more than often is indeed good, but in the long run it'll more than likely stress you out than bring you success.

[[SBT]B1GP1AYS]

srry about earlier i didn't get your friend request so i added u

[[iAPM]TattyJangles]

I like playing any role, and trust me, the best way to not lose games is to find someone that synergises with you and friendlist them. I play a good support and I added a guy to the clan+friend list who enjoys playing carry, who can farm well and has good awareness and judgement. We decisively win our lane 90% of the time with something like FA+Glacius. I have another friend who plays a great support so I can get **** loads of farm playing who is my favourite carry to play. Honestly, just not playing solo Queue can be everything you need to win.

[Graxex]

I like playing any role, and trust me, the best way to not lose games is to find someone that synergises with you and friendlist them. I play a good support and I added a guy to the clan+friend list who enjoys playing carry, who can farm well and has good awareness and judgement. We decisively win our lane 90% of the time with something like FA+Glacius. I have another friend who plays a great support so I can get **** loads of farm playing who is my favourite carry to play. Honestly, just not playing solo Queue can be everything you need to win.

Yea i belive i have to find a good carry player

[Jenova26]

That's why you should always friend-list players you know are capable of playing well, so you can play together in the future and maybe get rid of one of the random strangers you would have gotten.

This is some of the best advice you can get once you have the basics down. Hitting 1600 alone, for a lot of players, is easy, but getting past the 1650 bump is troublesome alone unless you are a much higher rated player and you're smurfing. I will usually solo queue for a couple games and then queue with a good player if I find one. I make it a point to watch their win percent and recent games. If they are winning frequently in the bracket I'm in, then I'll queue with them until I find someone better. Having one or two people to queue with who you have seen play well makes your games a little less sporadic than pure solo queue.

Personally, I'm laddering an older account through the 1600s right now and I'd love to have a 1650 pure support player to queue with, so I doubt you'll have much trouble finding someone with the same thought-process.

[[xBM]Ackwell1]

If you want to get higher just play with some friends, but meh... I just think solo que is the way to go. If you cant have enough impact on the game you will most likely lose and you will be in your own bracket and not just carried to higher. Also dont blame your team, think it like this. Other team has 5 1650 player and your team has 4 + you and if I understood right you think your better than 1650. If you look that "closely" you should figure out that the team with 4 1650 players and you should have higher chance of winning against a full team of 1650s.

I suggest you to watch pro streams and play more, when you get better youll most likely go up. It takes some people more time to improve than others.

[Graxex]

If you want to get higher just play with some friends, but meh... I just think solo que is the way to go. If you cant have enough impact on the game you will most likely lose and you will be in your own bracket and not just carried to higher. Also dont blame your team, think it like this. Other team has 5 1650 player and your team has 4 + you and if I understood right you think your better than 1650. If you look that "closely" you should figure out that the team with 4 1650 players and you should have higher chance of winning against a full team of 1650s.

I suggest you to watch pro streams and play more, when you get better youll most likely go up. It takes some people more time to improve than others.

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[[t1yf]Espeon]

You do not play a decent support if you are averaging 1.7 wards a game. I don't even play dedicated support and I average 3.2...

Click on your support heroes in the herodex, and you should be averaging 6-8+ wards/game if you are playing a 'decent' support

[[EHOP]Epidemilk]

Im playing a "decent" support but im always getting teamed up with some guys who dont really get farm?

Could get into playing Aluna, or others with potential to transition into semicarry DPS builds if your carries suck

[[ANHZ]RikiP]

you should try playing gankers and semi-carries. they are the easiest to move up with.

besides that, most people simply do not kill enough creeps. it's a sad fact of life that hon and dota are about killing creeps. killing heroes is 10x more fun, especially when you know you are better than your opponents, but if you don't balance killing with getting a lot of creeps, your gpm will suffer.

[Leetard]

If you want to get higher just play with some friends, but meh... I just think solo que is the way to go. If you cant have enough impact on the game you will most likely lose and you will be in your own bracket and not just carried to higher. Also dont blame your team, think it like this. Other team has 5 1650 player and your team has 4 + you and if I understood right you think your better than 1650. If you look that "closely" you should figure out that the team with 4 1650 players and you should have higher chance of winning against a full team of 1650s.

I suggest you to watch pro streams and play more, when you get better youll most likely go up. It takes some people more time to improve than others.

I really agree with Ackwell1, I myself play many different roles solo que and just laning with a decent player you can tell a huge difference between 1750+ support and 1600 support. A good support can actually carry low rated games quite easily too...

[[WCZ]CozyCozy]

You might be just have lousy start when you start playing HoN like I do.
I was a lousy one when started playing HoN, got hit 10xx MMR floor, trying to grasp all the basics.

Now, 8xx games already and still at 14xx mmr (+400), if I times three my match, do proportions counting, I might be just around your MMR now when I have my 3K games counter.

So don't worry bro, you aren't the only one.

Keep playing, MMR doesn't matter a lot. Fun is good.
*Btw, I also met someone with 13xx MMR, He got around 1,5+ KDR, 300+ GPM (might be 400+), and lots of wards. Reason? He simply lose/trolls lots of game by losing not helping the team but no k:d, just warding to get silvers. Then put all into one game with Big K low D. Talks a lot in-game, funny person.

[[WGTN]Silv3erTwee]

Ask for show picks. If you got no carry pick carry if they got no support pick support and so on.

[Phones]

Yeah, solo queuing and picking support can be super risky. You are 100% relying on your teammates to carry and be good, even if you support like a champ they can still crap the bed and leave you with a loss. as said before, best thing you can do is buddy up with people you've seen not suck, and go from there.

[Kartious]

Recently I have been playing supports to raise my TMM with a Hard Carry friend I found in some 1570 game for which I am now hovering around 1650. The key I found to make an influence to win your lane or game is play extremely aggresively but wise. This does your ad carry to be awake between last hits to be able to do this and no you should not put yourself in stupid risk situations. I often play 3 heroes as supports lately which are Pyromancer, Galc and Empath which Ill make a set up for an easy kill such as harrassing on the enemy till they are half HP, pull the creep stack and then approach from the side to get a kill (or at least make them lay brix!). When I manage to get striders I will roam to mid attempt kills there (people like Deadwood or pebbles <3 you for giving them a sweet set up for a free combo kill and normally the mid at <1700 doesn't expect to be ganked) and then run back and suprise attack the top lane again and so on. Supports are extremely effective of getting kills early game for your team and esentually giving a good guide on how the game will go.

[[SBT]Rkey]

Please let me mentor you, are you online now?

Aw snap offline D: Pm me in-game when you get on, my in-game name is Rkey.

[TaroEld]

If you really are a good enough support, you should rise out of 1600 quickly. At that rating, people start to appreciate a good support. Just look for a decent carry player you can team up with.

[kingcools]

can you deliever some of your replays where you think you did well? maybe we can point out possible mistakes so you can become better!