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yeah pretty much what greenman101 said,if not,find some friends and play
Originally Posted by Clytemnestra
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There is no hero, there is only luck
What was the last disaster? I'll tell ya
Electrician demanded mid over (blue) MK. MK demands bot. Flint is all "nooo" and goes there. MK goes bot as well anyway. Hellbringer "two carries together wtf." Flint moves to top. Salforis is AFK from pick screen. Flint is against a solo Scout who has about 1.5 wave head start, and with some help from their jungle Damp and a hasted Pebbles mid, kills Flint twice. Hellbringer leaves without a word at some point. Scores are something like 1-6 by then. Elec says something like "yeah this is stupid" and leaves.
TLDR- 4v5 at start, lanes do not take it into account, 2v5 before 10 minutes. Not even an AP game with the kind of ****ing subhumans you find there, they're in SD games too!
laned with pred as andro against a devo and vj.Pred was raped,hooked in the bushes.yay
As previously said, Wretched Hag is probably one of the better heroes to get out of that bracket with mainly because it can severely exploit bad players. Build a Nullstone or Hellflower early with power treads and blink from lane to lane farming while ganking at the right opportunities. Also it's very hard to gank a Hag, especially in lower brackets without proper coordination. However if you really do suck this won't help.
same way might be about magebane,but he needs a bit more farm.
Probably that he needs to be experienced to succeed with those 2.
He's basically right though, the OP does "suck". It's not meant to be of verbal offense but of truth relative to his own skill. Looking for heroes to crawl out of the pit with isn't a good way to look at this. The OP should be finding the overarching flaws in his play, such as positioning, GPM, and team play.
In short, the best hero to crawl out of your bracket with is any hero, if you don't belong in that bracket.
indeed,but in that bracket there is no teamplay,so basicly some games may be won with a 15-0 pebbles and forcing the enemy to concede.
I'd say witchslayer is a good hero to start off with, I was recommended this hero when I started, I found him to be funny and enjoyable, whilst still being pretty easy to play
Very true indeed, but in that bracket communication, teamwork, coordintion is likely to be oblivious to his teammates.
Which brings me to my other point and everyone else's point that he should pick dominate heroes such as hag, dev, monkey king.
The only thing I haven't seen many people add to that is that he has to have a certain a mount of skill to succeed with such heroes, and if he doesn't have the skill he isn't getting out of his bracket like he wants to.
Personally I say it's good to stay in ones bracket and learn because they're likely to just fall back down, but lets be honest here, playing in a low bracket like the 1200s is going to be hard to get out of for him(not only because he's an amateur at hon, but people in low brackets have no moral left and are likely to quit, be less confident, give up easily) T_T when it's relatively easy for some of us. On top of that, he has to worry about smurfs.
I guess my main point about that quote is.. even that the guy was right that he was "less skilled" I'm willing to help someone even if I know their fate. I call it the double edged sword.
We can tell him he is less skilled(sucks) and that he needs to work on his gameplay(which is not a bad thing at all) and he'll improve in time, or give him what he wants which is a list of heroes to brake that "bucket" hes in and let him struggle and stress himself out from failure. Only 3 logical conclusions.
1. He'll commit to really learning how to play Hon. 2. He'll come back saying how he isn't able to do it and ask for more advice. 3. He'll find out that what we recommended isn't working for him and give up his bracket braking goal.
Purple Rhayne (>^_^)><(^_^<)
Last edited by Rhayne; 06-30-2012 at 03:09 AM.
Everything sub 1600 can be won by solo pushing -> carrying imo.all the way. Can be done 1600-1650 too but not as easy.
If all you care about if finding a specific hero to improve your mmr, I would say at your skill level to stick with tanky heroes. Armadon would be a good start.
I agree there, Armadon is extremely easy to play and very very tanky
Theres no specific hero to do so, but you should stick in one role and try to get a lot better in that role.
I can suggest you a role, which I used to climb from 1300s to 1700s. I played solo role because you have a lot more impact on the game with a successful solo laning phase, you get more lvls and farm.
Monkey King guide to get out of the 1500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOmXi4aVFjc
all the enemy team was a bunch of noobs
Pretty much.
arachna mid is pretty tough at any mmr. he's just a pain to lane against with his high damage for last hitting.
ganking with him is easy too, he throws his ult on one guy and focuses him while hoping his teammates focus the other and it should be an easy 2 kill.
I recommended Wretched Hag before, but perhaps theres an easier hero. I'd like to recommend Deadwood, as I actually had very good success with him and ended up far above my actual real MMR level. I played Deadwood for about 50 straight games and ended up in an MMR bracket with competitive players. I went from my actual MMR about 1600~ to about 1850. Didn't matter if I was in lane or mid, I'd just focus on punching the other teams best player.
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