Best Hero to Crawl out of the Pit?

[Calculo]

When I was a newbie, I played poorly. I was learning the basics, but it plunged my MMR into the high 1200's, and I have been trying to climb out of the pit. In the 1200's, everything is dominated by how many feeders there are, and on whose team they are, good players can scarcely make a difference. I occasionally get a chain of no scrubs; once, I got to 1330. However, no sooner did this happen then I get about 10 double-feeder games in a row, plunging my MMR to 1280. I am beginning to lose vital skills, such as lasthitting, ss calls, and warding, because no matter what I do, none of it makes a difference. So I ask two questions:

What hero can best help with my quagmire? I would imagine a solo lane carry, possibly with either a stun or an escape mechanism.

Should I play 3's or 5's? If I play 3's, I make up a larger part of the team, but it seems that they aren't very popular and are imbalanced.

[Katieeee]

3v3 games have much longer Qs and the team with a decent Succy usually wins. The play is definitely different than 5v5.

Semi-carries/gankers are probably the easiest to manage games with since they are super early- and mid-game, while able to still be strong late. Popular heroes to pick in this category seem to be Devourer, Deadwood, Wretched Hag, Monkey King, Dampeer, Pebbles.

But find the role you're best at and just use that. I have accounts with lower MMR and I help win games easily on them as a support. x)

[Niqhtmare]

I mean no offense to you and this is not mindless flame, I'm just trying to get you to understand my point. I'm by no means good myself, but atleast I'm atleast 300 mmr above you so my advice should be of some help. I judged both your recent games and your overall stats.

I'll be totally honest with you - you should not try to "stomp" yourself out of your bracket with a specific hero, because quite frankly you suck. No offense to you, but just looking at your stats I can tell that you do not belong in any higher bracket than what you are in at the moment. Your average gpm is below 200 and your most played hero is Sand Wraith. A Sand Wraith needs to have atleast 400-500gpm to be useful before the 60 minute mark or whatever. It doesnt help either that your second most played hero, Amun Ra is one of the quickest farmers in the entire game. Another thing, I can see that you die way too much when you play carry heroes, which obviously is what you want to do. With your current most played, dying on average five times and not even getting 4 kills is not good in 30 minutes. Heroes such as Sand Wraith, Flint Beastwood and Magebane do not fight unless they absolutely need to untill you have your core items, such as Runed cleaver + Geometers + Steamboots (and maybe helm of the black legion) on Magebane, on Sandwraith you will want your Helm of the Black Legion, your Mock of Brilliance and your Steamboots before you join up with the rest of the team.

Another thing is that, unless you have a friend willing to support you, you should generally avoid hard carries as they need all the farm they can get and they are very weak early in the game so if you pair two lategame heroes in the same lane you will almost always lose the lane quite badly.

[tudor90]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayde
Buuuuuuubbleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[supply_depot]

Watch pro-streams and replays. I wasn't terrible to begin with, but I turned myself from a mid 1600's player to a 1750-1800 caliber player by watching people who are better than me and mimicking their patterns.

Your play can make a difference. I experimented and started a F2P account lately to see if it is as impossible advance as people make it out to be. It was admittedly harder- some of my teams were too bad to carry. However, I hit 1600 in about 20ish games.

Watch AngryTestie play - he carries baddies into the 1700's on a frequent basis. Bee-line for Silhouette, Soulstealer, Torturer, EW, etc... and own mid. But make sure you've got the skills to back it up, first.

[[XWO]papwned]

Hag farms more faster than most heroes while having a blink to keep her safe.
In addition she works well on her own so you don't need to coordinate with team mates too often, give her a shot.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

Hag farms more faster than most heroes while having a blink to keep her safe.
In addition she works well on her own so you don't need to coordinate with team mates too often, give her a shot.

yeah hag is awesome and versatile,definetly any brackets lower than 1600 will hate her and call her hero for noobs,or easy to play,so go for her.

anyway,the same situation is in the 1500 too.You win based on how and where the leevers and feeders are.But you can find some good players too.Rare,but they are.

[supply_depot]

yeah hag is awesome and versatile,definetly any brackets lower than 1600 will hate her and call her hero for noobs,or easy to play,so go for her.

Hag is pathetically easy and low-risk high reward.

But she is a good hero nonetheless, and possibly the best hero to carry out of the low brackets.

[Calculo]

I played Sand Wraith a lot when I was learning because he was a cheap hero.
So Hag, work on farming game, and pro streams

[[eNHa]Myzreal]

Hag and also Pyromancer mid.

That is what I use when carrying my friend's 1200 account up and winning 25 games in a row.

Take Pyromancer mid, buy 1 health potion, 1 amulet of exile (the 150g int one) and 1 ward. Dominate mid by getting last hits and harassing the enemy. Don't bother denying, enemies on 1200 usually can't aim 50% of the lasthits and position themselves badly so are easy to harass. Take Wave at lv 1, if creeps are low use it to lasthit them and burn the enemy. Skillbuild like this: Wave-Stun-Wave-Fervor-Wave-Blaze-Wave-Stun(till max)-Fervor(till max)-Stats-Blaze-Stats(till 25)
Get your bottle as fast as you can and start taking runes. Put the ward you bought so you can see the runes, no one at 1200 will ward the rune for you.
After Steamboots get an early Portal Key and start grabbing kills with your combo. When Ult is on cooldown, go farm creepwaves with stun+wave (works when stun is lv3 or lv4).
Make sure you are either focused on grabbing one kill (you need full mana and no cooldowns) or farming. Standing along somewhere, doing nothing, waiting for something to happen is a waste of time.
After Portal Key get a Hellflower OR a Nullstone if you really really really need it (I recomment HF though). Now when you blink in, use hellflower first and then use combo. +20% damage eats even armadons. Be sure to hit him in the face though, once he is stunned.
After that you can get either Brutalizer or Harkon's Blade. Harkon's is really nice, extreme damage. You can usually take down squishy enemies in 3 hits.

Basically identical tactic can be used when playing hag.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

brutalizer?i'd rather sb or fws.You don't need str+agil from brutalizer.

[RazKn]

If you really think you don't belong in the 1200 anymore 3v3 should be a way to get out of there. Theres so many ways to win 3v3 even with bad team. Pushing heroes with puzzlebox makes the game end quickly usually if you know how to push well. Not too hard having 1 side-rax down in 10-13 min.

Ganking heroes like gaunt, hag etc are very good, strong early and strong mid. You dont need hard carries since laningphase/farming is not a huge aspect of 3v3, ganking and team fighting should be main source of income, choose heroes thats useful from the beginning.

[[GB2S]Ped``Ophelia]

Use invisible heroes. People don't buy sentry wards under 1600 until you're 2 kills from immortal.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

If you really think you don't belong in the 1200 anymore 3v3 should be a way to get out of there. Theres so many ways to win 3v3 even with bad team. Pushing heroes with puzzlebox makes the game end quickly usually if you know how to push well. Not too hard having 1 side-rax down in 10-13 min.

Ganking heroes like gaunt, hag etc are very good, strong early and strong mid. You dont need hard carries since laningphase/farming is not a huge aspect of 3v3, ganking and team fighting should be main source of income, choose heroes thats useful from the beginning.

everyone picks devourer there and it is hard to counter him since he may be hiding anywhere in those trees.

Use invisible heroes. People don't buy sentry wards under 1600 until you're 2 kills from immortal.

yes they do,but usually buy them very late in the game,until you already have some items.

[greenman101]

Pro tip: the game isnt any better at higher MMR so just play and have fun and dont worry about MMR. I've bounced between 1300-1750 MMR and people will feed/troll/throw games just as hard in the 1700+ bracket. Furthermore, if you are actually solo queuing and not playing with any competent partners then it is ridiculously hard to actually carry your way to high MMR with any amount of fun. Can it be done? Yes. You can play Tremble, Hag, Bubbles, SS mid every single game and climb MMR...but you'll find that it's not very fun and you end up taking the game so seriously that you become insanely frustrated with your teammates poor play. There is no magic MMR where bads don't exist.

That being said, at your level of skill the most important statistic you should focus on improving is GPM. Get EVERY LAST HIT. I am not joking. You need to get every single one. If you are solo mid you should have 250-350 gpm just off of last hits; without any assists or kills. If you have under 200 you are either losing the lane or playing so poorly you are blowing the opportunity solo mid provides.

The other tip goes along with GPM...you need to maximize your farm at all times. All those times you are roaming around the map or at a mexican standoff at your tower just waiting for a gank opportunity? Stop doing that. You are either farming, team fighting, or ganking. Nothing else. Have a TP stone on you and be prepared to buy 10+ throughout the course of the game so as to cut down on travel time (TP to a team fight about to happen or TP from a concluded team fight to a farming lane). You may spend 1k gold on TP stones throughout the game, but the lost gold AND exp opportunity you would lose by saving that money far exceeds the cost of TP stones if you are using them properly.

The above advice is how to carry yourself out of low MMR - as you get better and you play heroes that will actually fullfill a role on a team other than "carry these newbs" then those rules do not apply and GPM is not as important.

As for the best heroes to use: any hero with a stun. If you are significantly better than the players in your bracket then you will be able to influence the outcome of the game with almost any hero.

[greenman101]

Also, I'd like to point out that the heroes myself and others list in this thread as newb stomping heroes are actually not good heroes to use to climb out of low MMR until you are already good enough at the game where you can climb out on other heroes. Soulstealer, Tremble, Bubbles, Hag are all expert level heroes to use properly. Hag and Bubbles are easy play when you're new, but they require significant amounts of gold to transform them from "intelligence nuker" to "mid/late game carry". Furthermore, they are heroes that farm poorly until you are experienced. As for Tremble and Soulstealer...don't even try them until you are much better at the game.

Heroes you should be playing when you're not very good are ones like Pyro, Pebbles, Emerald Warden, Armadon, Arachna, Predator, Devourer, Witchslayer, Rampage.

[[VGG]Fairlight_Ex]

Worry less about MMR and more about improving your own skills. Higher MMR doesn't make you a better player - being a better player grants you higher MMR.

After Portal Key get a Hellflower OR a Nullstone if you really really really need it (I recomment HF though). Now when you blink in, use hellflower first and then use combo. +20% damage eats even armadons. Be sure to hit him in the face though, once he is stunned.

You do not need to aim for Armadon's face if he is Hellflowered.

[[E]Rhayne]

I mean no offense to you and this is not mindless flame, I'm just trying to get you to understand my point. I'm by no means good myself, but atleast I'm atleast 300 mmr above you so my advice should be of some help. I judged both your recent games and your overall stats.

I'll be totally honest with you - you should not try to "stomp" yourself out of your bracket with a specific hero, because quite frankly you suck. No offense to you, but just looking at your stats I can tell that you do not belong in any higher bracket than what you are in at the moment. Your average gpm is below 200 and your most played hero is Sand Wraith. A Sand Wraith needs to have atleast 400-500gpm to be useful before the 60 minute mark or whatever. It doesnt help either that your second most played hero, Amun Ra is one of the quickest farmers in the entire game. Another thing, I can see that you die way too much when you play carry heroes, which obviously is what you want to do. With your current most played, dying on average five times and not even getting 4 kills is not good in 30 minutes. Heroes such as Sand Wraith, Flint Beastwood and Magebane do not fight unless they absolutely need to untill you have your core items, such as Runed cleaver + Geometers + Steamboots (and maybe helm of the black legion) on Magebane, on Sandwraith you will want your Helm of the Black Legion, your Mock of Brilliance and your Steamboots before you join up with the rest of the team.

Another thing is that, unless you have a friend willing to support you, you should generally avoid hard carries as they need all the farm they can get and they are very weak early in the game so if you pair two lategame heroes in the same lane you will almost always lose the lane quite badly.

Stating that you have 300 mmr above him is nearly irrelevant and not a significant gain. Your advice to the OP can be helpful whether you are 900 or 1800.
it is not of your concern to tell op where he/she doesn't belong even if their skills are obvious. You say no offense but cannot find a better choice of words other than "suck". You are clearly implying verbal offense whether it is intentional or not while trying to justify his reason for "sucking" and your advice. Stay on topic; Remain direct, and answer the real question.

[Keris]

Use scout, you don't even need to get babysitted at those mmr range. Just get early ghost marcher+battery and start raping

[[SBT]B1GP1AYS]

tremble ,monkey king is more really need to be said?