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    From HardCarries

    What's HardCarry more easy to play?I think in 4 hardcarries Chronos, TDL, MageBane and SandWraith...But i dont know if have others hardcarries...So my question is What hardcarry is more easy to play?I stay playing the game so more and less 3 monthsIf i dont pick this heroes now when i can pick them?tks for help

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    Maliken is a hard carry as well and not too difficult to play.

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    Ok. Hard carries can be defined as almost any carry, as any carry can be a hard carry. It all depends on the team lineup, but if a hero is a universal hero, such as valkerie or master of arms, it generally won't be refered to as a hard carry, as putting all your eggs into the MoA basket will probably not work unless you have a push strat or gank strat (but then why is MoA there?)
    Some of them are: Torturer, FA, puppet master, artie, flint, and valkerie (well kinda...). Melee carries could be, Arma (could carry), nh, scout, etc.

    As for which is easiest, in a noobie bracket, NH rapes. Since no one uses revvie wards (it pisses me off how i tried to counterward every game and never found anything), most of them aren't aware of dust, and bound eye carriers should be easily focused down. Otherwise, hard carries are relatively difficult to play, as your team has to turtle for most of the game, and a lot of noobs don't know how or why to do that. Also, since noob games generally end before hard carries become relevant, I'd suggest against using them.

    If you want to raise your win percent, I'd highly recommend playing a support/initiator/disabler like WS or Magmus.

    But since you're asking about hard carries, I'd guess that you want to raise your KD (which I find extraordinarily scrubby... but I can understand it <3) so you should play one of those gankers who just eat opponents (who don't check their minimap) until the 20 minute mark, such as pebbles, bloodhunter, or the infamous Devo.

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    I think you could consider Predator an hard carry (Even though he can be effective with less items then a typical hard carry) but he's the easiest to play.
    Other then that it's most deffinitely Magebane, Just wait till most nukes are done, go in and rape, unless you have shrunken then you can basicly rape already.
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    Yeah, the ideia to use Predator is valid but i need to learn jungle first... and magebane i've some problems with him because in the beginning he doesnt have skill to inflict damage...But principal ideia is that... like Chaos sad grow up the KD and make some diference in the match... i've had good matchs/results with SwiftBlade but depends the lane partner to be very effective, i'll try other heroes like Valk, Emerald Warden, maybe Magebane, Forsaken Archer, MoonQueen and Predator... i'm very appreciated your opnion tks

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    From the 4 you listed i'd say magebane because when youre in danger blink away, else autoattack + manaburn them. They outta mana ==> ulti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hertog_PJ View Post
    From the 4 you listed i'd say magebane because when youre in danger blink away, else autoattack + manaburn them. They outta mana ==> ulti
    U can put more Heroes... no problems accept new ideias

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    all except sand are nice with a runed axe,so it depends how and where you want to farm.but you must make at least 5 ck/minute and runed before 20.

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    From that list MB
    if u wanna go pred, go on lane with him not in the jungle, please

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    If you lane as pred, use the default guide by Buro. If you decide to jungle... w.e... then use either JP's Jungle Pred or the King Pred. Although JP recommends to rush alchy's bones... but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos763 View Post
    If you lane as pred, use the default guide by Buro. If you decide to jungle... w.e... then use either JP's Jungle Pred or the King Pred. Although JP recommends to rush alchy's bones... but...
    Ok, tks... i will try both types to play with predator... tks for ideias and "tutorial players"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skollz0r View Post
    Yeah, the ideia to use Predator is valid but i need to learn jungle first...
    No no no. If you're making this thread, presumably you can last hit decently in lane with a melee hero, in which case you can do so just fine with Predator. He's got lifesteal for staying power, he's got magic immunity, he can jump in someone's face. Why would you ever waste all that potential by sending him to the jungle? (jungling also forces you into maxing lifesteal when you're best off leaving it at 1 and maxing your better skills, look at the %'s on it and you will understand)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epidemilk View Post
    No no no. If you're making this thread, presumably you can last hit decently in lane with a melee hero, in which case you can do so just fine with Predator. He's got lifesteal for staying power, he's got magic immunity, he can jump in someone's face. Why would you ever waste all that potential by sending him to the jungle? (jungling also forces you into maxing lifesteal when you're best off leaving it at 1 and maxing your better skills, look at the %'s on it and you will understand)
    exactly... i pick yesterday Preda to test... And take my own conclusions... it's that if the lane is cool to last hits and farm so much go lane, in other case go jungle... jungle is farm precise lane no...preda lane is good... maybe jungle to give more XP to our team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skollz0r View Post
    exactly... i pick yesterday Preda to test... And take my own conclusions... it's that if the lane is cool to last hits and farm so much go lane, in other case go jungle... jungle is farm precise lane no...preda lane is good... maybe jungle to give more XP to our team...
    'More XP to your team' assumes that your 1v2 won't get raped, and even people who volunteer for it get raped sometimes... and even if he does okay, it comes at the expense of your own farm/xp because he is SO slow killing jungle early....he's got no minions, no cheap/free aoe, no instant creep kill, nothing. Just lifesteal.

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    When someone on my team calls jungle with predator I just leave the game. Thats how bad it is.

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    I always give the Pred jungling the benefit of the doubt, but as much as I enjoy the solo lane, I just know he probably won't be much use unless the opponents are reeeally bad. x) But hey, I'm lucky I haven't seen anyone ask for "I jungle at Lvl 3 ok?" for the longest time. ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katieeee View Post
    "I jungle at Lvl 3 ok?" for the longest time. ;P
    same for zephyr or ws.

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    From what I understand, the entire idea of jungling is to give the team more xp & gold. this assumes that the guy soloing will be able to take advantage of it. (ex: pred jungle, arachna/moa/tort/hag/emerald/valk in the lane, pebb/nomad/hag/tort/zeph/any1good mid).

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    i only jungle pred if someone wants a solo lane. as for hard carries, swiftblade as a very attractive hard carry for newer players as he has 2 skills that do considerable damage and make him immune to most damage. I'd say SB has the strongest early game of the hard carries.

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    predator is a really really good hardcarry, but you have to get a lot of farm and utilize the jungle as well as the lanes

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