Ok.Here I will tell you how I play some heroes.You tell me what I do right and what I do wrong.I will try to keep it at short as possible to avoid wall of text.Take your time to read and answer,any links to other guides that explain what you should have written are good.Note that i write this because i consider those guides bad/outdated.Even if they have 100% by the community,maybe those are not the best choices.I will post here the agility heroes and will come back for int and strength after i fully understood these.
First a few questions
1.On what heroes to make what boots?Mainly what heroes NEED those boots?
2.I always get a mist vest,even if the enemy has low magic damage(400g can sometimes save me from a scout ult or whatever)
3.Should I make rotT on any ranged carry(rachna/valk/sillo)?Is it viable on melee as well(mm,tdl,mb)?I ask this here so I don’t ask it on each hero
4.i would like to know for all of these heroes which item/items to make first and items so I occupy all their inventory.Meaning,I want full lategame inventories,like they would have unlimited gold.
Andromeda
-first items will be like support
-tablet,astrolabe are core.sheepstick,hellflower luxuries I guess.
-rotT is nice
-what boots?striders?steamboots?what if they got dw should I make p.greaves?
-is sotm viable?
-portal key?
-what to max first?her stun/wave/aura?get ult at 6?
-Any other tips?
Artillery
-ghost marchers?
-max his e,then his q?
-frostburn?
-savage mace,shroud,genjuro?
Engineer
-boots?
-Max his q and w.
-should I get stats or mines?
-tablet,ros,wards
-spellshards are viable?
Night hound
-he needs farm,should I get a hatchet?
-squishy,so I dunno what to make on him for max dps and resistance.shrunken?what should his 1st item be?
-geometer’s bane to dispel dust?
Zephyr
-pubstomping mid,hard to shut down.
-ghost marchers?
-farm machine,helm,mock,heart,armor?When it is a good minute to have his mock ready?
-frostburn,shieldbreaker,sor?what to do on this dude?
-saw him once with pkey
Scout
-boots?
-what should his 1st item be sb or runed?
-what other items should he get?
-skillbuild?Should I get 1 point in his 3rd or max his 1st ?
Arachna
-boots?
-dunno what to get other than geo’s bane 1st item
-is geo’s bane good as 1st item anyway?
-max 1st or 3rd skill?
Slither
-good mid,but can also lane for some easy kills with a stunner
-boots?
-I usually make geo’s gane 1st item too
-dunno what else.shroud?
-dunno even if he can semi-carry,but his ult sure is annoying at one point In a teamfight
-I max his 2nd first and his 1st after.
Fayde
-waste of potential if not mid.
-boots?
-Is codex 1st item viable on her?
-should I upgrade that codex to max?
-any other items to make a full inventory?
-spellshards or harkons viable?
-I hate the cast time on her 3rd,should I take that spell or get +stats?
SS
-for fun,I do spellshards on him(but not when I want to win a game lol)
-now,I like pkey more than shroud since he becomes more mobile
-as for next item,shrunken?shieldbreaker?geo’s bane?
-saw a shamz game today when he went frostburn 1st item.since when is it viable?
Madman
-I recently heard that nullstone+hellflower are better than runed axe
-any other tips/items?rememeber I want full lategame unlimited gold inventories,not just 2 items.
-I usually take his 1st skills,then his crit,then his ult(his ult takes too much mana and I need them for the other 2 spells,and also his ult is not needed when farming).I could be wrong?
Tdl-my favorite hero as design,concept,skills,anything.Very versatile and scary.When i see one on the enemy team(that has good kdr) i know it is a lost game.
-nice mid if you can farm.With a gank from glacius/andro/stunner you can get an easy kill on the other mid(unless he is kraken or moraxus)
-rotT viable?
-runed axe core.I was making nullfire blade 1st item because of reasons(nice slow combined with atk speed for fast draining mana and more attacks with 1st skill activated)
-recently I found out savagemace and wingbow are nice on her too.But which one should be made/farmed 1st?
-I also fount out a fast frostburn+abyssal are nice on her too.What should I do after?Split fburn and farm a fws?should I make geo’s bane or sell the firebrand?why did I bought it if I have to sell it again?
-skillbuild?
Corrupted
-mid hero?
For some reasons I hate him,and I can’t carry my team with this dude.I know he is awesome and a game-winning,but for some reasons I can’t.I recently heard he should be built tanky rather than as a carry,so tell me what tanky means?
-should I max his 2nd or his 3rd 1st?
-more items.
FA
-mid hero?
Same as cd,I suck at fa’ing.Should I get frostburn 1st item?geo's?she is squishy as hell.
I heard you can stack ancients and ult them.Isn't that a waste of an ult could have been used in a teamfight?(It has a low cd,but still it deals a lot of damage)
Chronos
-He is really fun and troll.He is fun mid if you can get farm.
-items?
-skillbuild?have no idea what to level
-heard a funny idea that if you have a ranged carry make chromos ult them(also he must farm a resto stone),then let the carry autoattack them to death.But I think this wastes chronos’s potential of a hard carry.
Tremble
-mid hero?
-no idea again of items and skillbuild.guides max his mounds and his 3rd 1st.Is it viable?
Valk
-mid/solo hero.
-found out that sb 1st item is nice.Then I think geo’s bane comes next?Or it isn’t such a good item?Wingbow?
-I max her 1st skill,then her arrow.Not sure when to take her ult.
Sillo-one of my favorite
-it seems to me like a much powerful valk(they are pretty similar in playstyle and somehow abilities)
-items:same as valk?nullstone 1st?sb 1st?
-skillbuild?
-remember I want full late-game inventory.
Magebane
-can be mid if against a hero that doesn’t stop his farm
-I make geo’s bane 1st item.My friends make frostburn and brutalizer for stunlock.
-I have seen runed axe a nice pick,making him a farm-machine
-not sure which are best and how should this guy look in the end.
mQ
-mid hero?benefits from being 6 for having a ganking ult?
-was pretty op in beta,now she seems like hard to win with(back then her ult was annoying as hell and game-winning).Dunno what happened,maybe people learned about defensive items?
-again,dunno what to make on her.Some get shroud,but I find that a waste.Some get lifesteal and start farming.Shrunken seems nice on her.
-skillbuild?max q and aura,get bounces after?
Emerald
-mid hero?
-I have read on the forums that he is pretty op,and I have seen him do immortals/annihilations in hands of other people
-for some reason I SUCK with this hero and I can’t play him.
-Any tips and items would be appreciated.
Swift
-it is interesting to go mid with him.
-bloodlust machine
-I have read that a nullstone is nice on him,and that he can’t carry since he lacks atk speed?
-my funny build includes sotm and restoration->ult their well and then roflmao.
-now taking serious business,people say that runed axe is not good item for him since he can farm with his Q.(same situation as madman,nullstone gives him regen so he can use that to farm).Is it nice?
-any other items?Daemonic/charged seem nice for him since they lower armor and give atk speed,but I dunno what to say.
-skillbuild?max his q.then what to take?crit for nice last hist?stats for more Q spamming or enough mana for Q+ult at 6?counterattack?Is counterattack viable or just level stats?
wildsoul
-Haven’t played him since...800 games ago
-still don’t know what skills make him good.Obvious you go to max the bear,but some guides tell you just to put 2 points in bear,only to get root.Dunno.
-rush mock?alchemist bones then mock?
-items?skillbuild?
Monkeyking
-pubstomping mid hero or sidelanes with nymphora or any stun(but nymph gives him mana etc.)
-I generally know how to combo,but dunno what items to get on him.Make a bulwark for fast –armor?Make shieldbreaker to have more damage for my Q spell?-other items?
-skillbuild?
Blitz
-is support
-skillbuild?
-other “special items”,that are good for him?
-I found that nullstone/shroud are nice if you can afford them
Draconis
-don’t really like the general idea of the hero(he lacks stuns and escape mecha’s),his 2nd has short duration
-his splitfire is interesting,maybe with a tempest/chronos he can be devastating?
-items/skillbuild?
Moa
-must be midlane to carry I guess.
-support,semi-carry,or hardcarry?
-items?
-skillbuild?A lot of people tell me to max his 2nd,other tell to max q and e.
Dampheer
-he is fun to play but I hate it when I lose essences
-I hate it when people jungle with him,they waste potential
-max his q and w,then aura I guess
-helm,spellshards or frostburn 1st item?
-what other items?i heard on the forums something about pkey.sounds interesting.
Flint
-must be midlane
-haven’t played him since…
-items?
-max flare and 2nd,then 3rd?
Gemini
-hate the hero,hate his ult
-max his first 2 spells
-make nullfire max 3rd take ult at level 24?do I waste potential?I mean I already waste potential since I pick him.lol.
Gunblade
-must be midlane
-pretty much an opposite of flint
-and boring too
-genjuro+winbow?
-shieldbreaker?
-I usually max his 1st and shield.Could be wrong if I don’t take his 3rd?(you can’t get near people unless you get a good rune)
bh
firebrand,geo's
useless if not mid
useless anyway
shadwoblade
fun to play as tank
frostburn,behe's heart?
sand wraith
helm?
mock?
anything else?
max 1st and 2nd?
nomad
need tons of farm or kills
shieldbreaker 1st?
bulwark 1st?
brutalizer?
other items?
Last edited by Clytemnestra; 06-22-2012 at 02:13 PM.
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