Disjoints

[[E]Clytemnestra]

So i was reading this and was wondering if ws/pyro ults can be disjointed or not(if that guide is outdated).http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...-Disjoint-List

Also,i am wondering if you can disjoing aoe spells like pyro's 1st and 2nd or magmus stun.(meaning they try to stun you,you activate geo's bane and disjoing.)Is this possible?

Also,is panda's cannonball a disjoint?I recently heard that being "in the air" is different from disjointing.

[Arkguil]

I can confirm that I have disjointed a pyro ultimate by stunning with Magmus while it was in mid-air. It wasn't intentional, of course, but it was done.

I doubt you can disjoint pyro AOE stun by using a Geometer's Bane.

Edit: This post (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...n-of-Mindgames) says it can be done. I would recommend reading through that first post at least as there is some great information there.

[[S2]ElementUser]

You can't "disjoint" undisjointable projectiles - you can nullify them via invulnerability though

[ReD`RubY]

Also,i am wondering if you can disjoing aoe spells like pyro's 1st(meaning they try to stun you,you activate geo's bane and disjoing.)Is this possible?

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So I know I did this in DotA tho Mantastyle illus took longer time to summon. Anyway Did some testing in practice and I managed to do it 2 times at 10% game speed. In a real game tho, it would be really hard to execute.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

So I know I did this in DotA tho Mantastyle illus took longer time to summon. Anyway Did some testing in practice and I managed to do it 2 times at 10% game speed. In a real game tho, it would be really hard to execute.

so this means it is possible after all.

hm,and where can i find a list of undisjointable projectiles?
I mean you can disjoint flint ult with valk leap for example.Or if you leap while pyro stuns/waves and those projectiles don't catch you.So how is it after all?what can disjoint what and what can't disjoint what?

[LunarAshes]

I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of projectile here. Pyro's stun and wave are AoEs. They target ground and aren't "locked on" to your hero, so there's nothing to disjoint, just an area to not be in. A targeted projectile is like a ranged auto attack or Flint ulti. Something that will follow you once it's started its animation, regardless of how far you run with however much movement speed you could possibly have. Those are what need to be disjointed by a Blink/Leap etc. AoEs, you can just walk out of. As ElementUser said though, you can avoid them with invulnerability too, which is what is happening when you use Geometer's Bane - you get a small window of invulnerability when you cast it.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

and what other items or spells give you "invulnerability" other than geo's?

[[GM]Imbaer]

Storm Spirit makes whoever it is used on invulnerable over its duration. IIRC Silhouette's ult has a short invulnerability window just like geo's.

[[SBT]Necroth]

and what other items or spells give you "invulnerability" other than geo's?

From the top of my head.
Magmus Q
Midas E
Geomancer Q
Nomad R
Pharaoh R
Succubus E (first second)
Gemini W
Empath R
Parasite W
Madman W
Stormspirit (item)

There are more though.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

From the top of my head.
Magmus Q
Midas E
Geomancer Q
Nomad R
Pharaoh R
Succubus E (first second)
Gemini W
Empath R
Parasite W
Madman W
Stormspirit (item)

There are more though.

So basicly these "disjoints" are a second of invulnerability,and are either spells or geo's bane(stormspirit is a cheatmode).But what about panda's cannonball?is that a moment of invulnerability?

[[SBT]Necroth]

Panda has no invulnerability. His E disjoints.

<onimpact >
      <spawnprojectile name="Projectile_Panda_Ability3" source="source_entity" target="target_position" bind="source_entity" bindturn="true" bindstate="State_Panda_Ability3_Bind" noresponse="true" />        
      <disjoint target="source_entity" />
</onimpact>

Meaning he won't be able to disjoint Witchslayers Silver Bullet for example.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

How come his E disjoints but he is not able to dodge a projectile(like ws bullet)?i don't get it.

[[SBT]Necroth]

That's because Witch slayers ultimate and Pyromancers ultimate are undisjointable.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

That's because Witch slayers ultimate and Pyromancers ultimate are undisjointable.

then how come

I can confirm that I have disjointed a pyro ultimate by stunning with Magmus while it was in mid-air. It wasn't intentional, of course, but it was done.

I doubt you can disjoint pyro AOE stun by using a Geometer's Bane.

Edit: This post (http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...n-of-Mindgames) says it can be done. I would recommend reading through that first post at least as there is some great information there.

he did this?

[[S2]ElementUser]

Geometer's Bane has a 0.1s invulnerability period after cast

[Hubaris]

Q: What is a disjoint?
A: When a projectile such as Scout's Arrow locks onto you (mid flight), you blink away or use an ability with a disjoint on it to make the ability miss.

Q: What projectiles cannot be disjointed?
A: Witch, Pyro, Plague Ultimates despite 'locking on' cannot be disjointed.

Q: How did I disjoint Witch Ultimate with Magmus!?
A: Magmus grants invulnerability with Lava Surge, the bullet did not 'miss' it just hit him during a frame of invincibility, thus he takes no damage.

Q: Can I disjoint Pyro Stun?
A: Pyro's Stun (such as many AoE's) do not lock on to a player and are not a projectile, thus you cannot disjoint them. You can however, move out of the AoE.

Q: I got stunned by Hammer Toss even though my skill said it should disjoint, why?
A: Hammer actually creates two thing, a projectile and an area. Therefore you need to disjoint far enough from the hammer's impact, because a stun still goes off at that area that the projectile hits.

These are Q's which seem to pop up often. If there are any corrections EU, help me fix them plx.

Also: You forgot two of the biggest invulnerability spells in the game, Swift's Ultimate and Doctor's Ultimate.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

Q: What is a disjoint?
A: When a projectile such as Scout's Arrow locks onto you (mid flight), you blink away or use an ability with a disjoint on it to make the ability miss.

Q: What projectiles cannot be disjointed?
A: Witch, Pyro, Plague Ultimates despite 'locking on' cannot be disjointed.

Q: How did I disjoint Witch Ultimate with Magmus!?
A: Magmus grants invulnerability with Lava Surge, the bullet did not 'miss' it just hit him during a frame of invincibility, thus he takes no damage.

Q: Can I disjoint Pyro Stun?
A: Pyro's Stun (such as many AoE's) do not lock on to a player and are not a projectile, thus you cannot disjoint them. You can however, move out of the AoE.

Q: I got stunned by Hammer Toss even though my skill said it should disjoint, why?
A: Hammer actually creates two thing, a projectile and an area. Therefore you need to disjoint far enough from the hammer's impact, because a stun still goes off at that area that the projectile hits.

These are Q's which seem to pop up often. If there are any corrections EU, help me fix them plx.

Also: You forgot two of the biggest invulnerability spells in the game, Swift's Ultimate and Doctor's Ultimate.

And this is what i call a good answer.Thank you very much.

[Hubaris]

No problem, I can answer things technically, but I think this simplification would be more appropriate. Hopefully EU can attest to this, proper information over pride.

[[E]Clytemnestra]

So,i can use madman's w to get rid of both pyro,scout ults and stuns right?since it makes me invulnerable,i am able do get invulnerable to pyro stun,and able to disjoing his ult.(i did it in practice and it works,i don't get damaged if i time it right)

But if i ult with pyro a drunken master and try to use his 3rd,it damages him.So basicly if i use any of these http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...-Disjoint-List while ulted by pyro ult i will get damaged,but against other damaging spells i am immune to them right?Any other disjoint spell?

[Dominare]

How many times do people have to tell you? Pyro ult CANNOT be disjointed.