The Nomebreaker (anti-aura item)

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The Nomebreaker:

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Cost: 3665 gold
Manatube (875)
Helm of the Victim (950)
Major Totem (540)
Recipe (1300)

Passive Bonuses:
+100% mana regen
+3 Health Regen
+5 Armour
+8 Intelligence
+8 Agility
+8 Strength

Active Ability: Solitude
Target: All units
Type: Temporary aura
Range: 550 radius
Manacost: 100
Duration: 4.5 seconds
Cool Down: 50 seconds

Effect: Nullifies the effect of all enemy auras within the Nomebreaker's aura. Enemies within range will not benefit from friendly auras, and Team mates in range will not suffer enemy auras.

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Concept: Yeah ok, the name is a bit of a joke stemming from an unexplained personal desire to make Nome cry. But the concept of the item comes from being a frustrated Panda trying to face off against the Vindicator. This item would probably see the most benefit for a Spell combo reliant hero not being totally ass raped by Vindicator's aura.

But there are other situations this item can be useful. It's by no means a game breaker, but every little bit helps. Consider damage aura stacking heroes. Heroes Rampage and Andromeda together increase their team's damage dramatically. Being able to knock that off during a clash is very helpful.

Or even sometimes just little things like shutting down Soul Stealer's negative armour for the duration of a fight, preventing Nome's Wisdom from healing heroes, or getting rid of that annoying -15 IAS from a Frostfield Plate, or removing the Abyssal Skull's lifesteal.

The Nomebreaker is an item made in mind for a supportive hero who's had a good early game, and his team isn't looking for Nome's wisdom, Arcane Ring or Astrolabe. It's an item that'll be helpful if the opposing team looks like they will be stacking lots of Auras.

Or the afore mentioned spell spammers getting ass raped by Glyph of Silence

[[TCND]Tanubis]

Nice item concept, well thought out. I'd possibly reduce either the duration or the range of the burst, as it's potentially a very powerful ability for low gold cost.

[PoopyDesires]

Would destroy vindicator ._.

[TreeHorse]

Would destroy vindicator ._.

What's the phrase everyone loved to use when he was ported? Something like: "Oh no a counter to the AOE blink metagame, let the QQ begin"

Seems like a good enough idea to me. Agreed that the duration/CD needs to be tweaked a bit though.

This would be an awesome item for Pharaoh or Hag.

Would destroy vindicator ._.

Well, the effect from the Nomebreaker itself is an activatable Aura, so to counter it the easiest option is to identify and focus fire the hero carrying it. Once they drop dead the aura goes away and Glyph reactivates.

So he opens early with his ultimate silence, and during that time his team needs to beat on the wielder of the Nomebreaker.

If his team refuses to do that? Well with that lack of teamwork showing they probably weren't going to win anyway.

Personally I don't think the concept is going to ruin Vindicator anymore than building a Nullfire to purge Zeph, building a tablet to knock Tempest around is etc.

Nice item concept, well thought out. I'd possibly reduce either the duration or the range of the burst, as it's potentially a very powerful ability for low gold cost.

Just gonna wait for a little more feedback before I start changing up numbers, not really sure where to take it yet although probably going to reduce the range of the effect. Would be nice if some more of the people voting no would post, would give me some more ideas on what to do.

[delraith]

Good item. T-up

[Pudgeinabowl]

So if this fires an anti aura aura (thats what i gathered from "Type: Temporary aura"), what happens when the other team fires their own one back at you? Cancels the canceling which should possibly cancel the incoming cancel because thats an aura to and thus won't work under the cancel?....Pretty sure that'd be like dividing by zero for HoN

[Glorify1]

2800 gold to counter every aura in the game? lol

So if this fires an anti aura aura (thats what i gathered from "Type: Temporary aura"), what happens when the other team fires their own one back at you? Cancels the canceling which should possibly cancel the incoming cancel because thats an aura to and thus won't work under the cancel?....Pretty sure that'd be like dividing by zero for HoN

That is a good point to bring up.

I'd say off the top of my head, any units falling in overlapping areas of opposing auras cannot be affected by enemy auras, but also cannot be affected by friendly auras (with the exception of Nomebreakers. They can't cancel each other out).

I considered just having them cancel each other out, but that would lead to teams buying the item just to cancel the other team's item, and we're back where we started before having a nomebreaker and it might as well not even be there. This way there's only reason to buy a Nomebreaker if you want to actually combat opposing auras rather than just make the other team's nomebreaker pointless.

Anyone got anything they want to add on this point?

2800 gold to counter every aura in the game? lol

Like I said, the numbers are just a starting point, they're by no means fixed. Too cheap in your opinion, how much would you make it? Justifications?

[[iNF]Infinity]

It seems a bit powerful, especially considering auras don't seem to be popular for some reason, this would just make more of an excuse not to buy frostfield plate etc.
T-UP because it's a good idea, could use a little nerfin though.

[Nome]

What the hell is this!

Good item, though. Could use different components--Great Arcana is really overused now.

[[IaF]Skyve]

Imo it would be great to make Solitude an activateable Aura, so the area of "Solitude" travels with you.

Imo it would be great to make Solitude an activateable Aura, so the area of "Solitude" travels with you.

That is how it currently works. It's an aura, but it has a mana cost to activate, and only stays active for so long before going on cooldown.

[[IaF]Skyve]

That is how it currently works. It's an aura, but it has a mana cost to activate, and only stays active for so long before going on cooldown.

I guess I misread it, cause I thought it was targetting an area on the ground, my bad :/

i loled wtf.

kudo's for being unique mind you o.0

It's all part of a dastardly plan to bottle and sell Nometears... although he likes it so I may have to resort to plan B.

Which may or may not involve nipple twisting.

Sounds like it should be a hero skill instead of an item.

Ok, swapped out the Arcana for some other items. Still trying to keep this fairly well rounded so it's not limited to an INT support hero sort of thing. You won't see a carry picking this up for the life of him, but I don't want to rule out other attribute support heroes. I initially considered having a Sustainer, but that's used almost as much as an Arcana.

But other than that, most people seemed to agree that the item was too good in the state it was mainly due to the effects of solitude. To that end the range of the Aura is decreased, duration decreased, and CD increased.

Also overall cost increased by about 800 gold.

Thoughts?

[Avi1231]

Not a bad idea, but 7 seconds sounds pretty overpowered. I'd say no more than a 3-5 seconds at the most.

[[ECU]Cow]

awesome, die vindicator, DIE! Yes, my panda got owned

[Tyrando]

i loled wtf.

kudo's for being unique mind you o.0