Some very helpful replies here. I was actually looking for a no-stats game when I first scanned the available games. I did see a couple of them but they had an icon that said "official game" which confused me, so instead I went to one of the "noobs only" games.
About trying not to die, I did that as well.. I remembered from WCIII about feeding the enemy exp by sending weak minion fodder into a meat grinder situation. Just levels them up. So yeah, I tried to avoid doing that with my hero without much success. At one point in the game I was content to just sit in the home fountain until the game warned me that I was close to being kicked for being "idle".
I would have taken any advice to try and get started while in there, but all I got was "why don't you quit please?" .. l00% leave ratio? no thanks. I've searched Youtube for some instructional vids for the basics. Will ask friends who have the game already for help before playing again.
Play some No Stats games. I played a couple for fun, but it turns out No Stats is pretty much code for "REALLY Noobs Only." Noobs Only games will still have veterans in them to farm stats; however, they'll avoid No Stats games since it doesn't do crap for them, so it's generally filled with new players getting a feel for the game.
This works really well actually. Considering I've only played around 5 games so far, I noticed the noob only games get pretty vicious. I don't mind getting yelled at and called noob (an old and overused word for years like the other N word ) but not everyone appreiciates it. I do hope that once the online documentation for this game comes online that no stat games are mentioned in the first sentence for a newbie. I would hate to see this game die quickly like I've seen so many other games die because of the elitist community pushing out potential newbie players.
My only advice to you is: watch videos on youtube, play in PRACTICE MODE for a bit, get a feel for the game, and then just play over and over again till you know what you're doing. IMO this game is WAY more noob-friendly than dota was, perhaps because it's still in beta, so you should feel lucky that you're picking it up when you are.
The main reason why people hate noobs is that one noob can ruin a whole game. You can lose, no matter how good you are, because of one noob feeding their team. It's understandable why people don't want to play with noobs because of that.
That said, if you join a "noobs only" game, and people are complaining about your nooby-ness, tell them to man-up and start playing non-em non-noobs games. You get what you put in, and if you join noob games you can expect there to be noobs!
My other piece of advice would be to play every hero. The best way to do this, IMO, is to play SD (single draft). That way you're playing against people who usually won't be playing characters they're super good with. Play every hero once, you're going to lose most of the games, but the knowledge of what all the heroes do is invaluable.
Pub games are toxic man. Thats the problem with this game, it's not an rpg, so you think you can just pick up a game and play, but you need a team or a clan if you want a real game. Pubs are just toxic, and its mostly due to the pub community:
1. Pub games are never shuffle teams, which leads to 3-5 people being locked on 1 team and using teamwork to own the clueless newbies on the other team.
2. 75%+ pub games are -em.
3. 'Noob only' is just there to sucker bad players so the pubstompers can farm stats.
4. 80% of pub players are experienced at farming newbies but still terribad, so you can never tell with their stats.
5. Pubs dont know what support is, they only know boots first+autoattack.
Your ass must be sore from all those statistics you are pulling from it.
I totally agree with playing no stats. No stats=Pros not joining to roflstomp noobs. If your just learning how to play the game i really suggest looking into those type of games. That way once you do **** up (which everyone did at one point, even the pro's, i know shocking :O) you dont get flamed by a rager that completely has no life except staring at HoN for 5-6-7-8-9 hours a day. If you want PM me in game and i'd be glad to show you the ropes. I know how hard it is for a brand new player to start out. Hope this helps
Don't listen to the idiots who spout off in chat. When I first started it was just a case of :
This is a noob game, twat, I am a noob.
That usually shuts them up.
Just practice and then you will get better.
Also learn to pick your games, if you go into a game and it has some guy who is 1700 and the rest are 1400, don't bother, you are just stats fodder. Even if the guy is on your side you won't learn much.
I'm still a horrible noob, but getting better quickly.
I definitely had a horrible experience my first 5-10 games. After playing HoN for my first 2 nights, I figured I was done with it, and went to play a few games of Savage 1.
However, I was quickly back on the HoN forums, reading guides and whatnot. It didn't take me long to start creating my own games and kicking people who'd played more than 20 games. It is possible you might get someone experienced with a new account that way, but I had pretty good success.
I definitely advize learning how to use practice mode, playing non-stats games, and hosting your own games using whatever criteria you deem fit to pick who you play with. S2 is definitely going to have to do something to help us real first timers out when the game goes live, but in the mean time there certainly are ways.
peopl know that most people are dicks ont he internet
- fi you read what he wrote - is the following
1) no hint of a manual - you have to delve into these forums (and about 20-30% o the advice is trlling anyway)
2) no screens ingame to giv a very brief overview (EG there are 3 char classes - you want at least one of each)
3) the other problem was the items - now there are recommended items
HOWEVER PLEASE REMEMBER THAT USERS DO NOT READ THINGS UNLESS IT IS RUGHT AND I MEAN RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES.
heff atwood did a great article on this recently with his problems with the development of stack overflow.
There really needs to be a big flashing light on recommended items until something is clicked to turn it off.
There needs to be hjints at the start such as a window or something saying 'BUY SOME CHEAP ITEMS'
then saying OK NOW GO DOWN ONE OF THE LANES TO KILL STUFF.
Its trivial but its the kind of 'obvious' thin gthat really is not obvious in any way shape or form.
I really didnt get dota for a good few games and would of quit if it wasnt played at a lan i goto. thankfully there were people there you could stand behind and they would explain **** to you.