OK,so in all seriousness,why is BDing in Mid Wars allowed?

[[23TF]Nanis23]

Here is a little something I made for you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrDAjsBUoog&list=
94-76
In their favor
They won most team fights,they didn't deserve to lose
But they did lose,not because they played worse,they only lost because I AND I ALONE used a cheap,broken,totally unbalanced method to win the game

Hell,they even noticed me(probably Gunblade at the river) and came to kill me - and they didn't make it in time
I also didn't use Geometer after Restoration Orb

[[23TF]Nanis23]

So...what happened?
Can't come with a counter argument now? a Pollywog got your tongue?

[[BOT]St0l3n_ID]

TP back or bd faster

Good ol' baserush^^

[DatAsh`]

No, we just realized that having a discussion with you is like playing chess with a pidgeon.

[ThaWhiplash]

hammerstorm with ulti and elder parasite and insanitarius tears through buildings oh an

[[AoLv]foul_beast]

OP i must say it has been some time since iv read so much **** in one thread, firstly its NOT backdooring(backdooring does not exist in HoN, what you explained is creep skipping, the real backdooring is when you go and kill the raxs/base before the tower is down which btw is not possible in HoN)

secondly, these "rules" you've designed in your head simply don't exist in the game, this "no backdooring" rule alot of people seem to think exists is just an excuse for you to complain about someone who is playing outside your preconceived idea of "how to play"(they are not cheating in anyway, nor are they breaking any rules whatsoever)

also i'd like to point out that you can defend against a "bd" 90% of the time and the only reason you don't is because your either too slack or you were ilprepared and thus deserve the loss either way

[[PonE]Beowulf]

OP i must say it has been some time since iv read so much **** in one thread, firstly its NOT backdooring(backdooring does not exist in HoN, what you explained is creep skipping, the real backdooring is when you go and kill the raxs/base before the tower is down which btw is not possible in HoN)

secondly, these "rules" you've designed in your head simply don't exist in the game, this "no backdooring" rule alot of people seem to think exists is just an excuse for you to complain about someone who is playing outside your preconceived idea of "how to play"(they are not cheating in anyway, nor are they breaking any rules whatsoever)

also i'd like to point out that you can defend against a "bd" 90% of the time and the only reason you don't is because your either too slack or you were ilprepared and thus deserve the loss either way

Guess what, this isn't DotA. Backdooring has a different description.
And it is strictly against tournament rules to backdoor.
Stop trying to justify a strategy that makes bad players think they are good.

[[AoLv]foul_beast]

Guess what, this isn't DotA. Backdooring has a different description.
And it is strictly against tournament rules to backdoor.
Stop trying to justify a strategy that makes bad players think they are good.

who said this was tournament mode huh?
(btw its legit whether you like it or not)

[[23TF]Nanis23]

firstly its NOT backdooring(backdooring does not exist in HoN, what you explained is creep skipping, the real backdooring is when you go and kill the raxs/base before the tower is down which btw is not possible in HoN)

....
Destroying the Rax before the tower is not possible for years now and the term stands
No one ever refer to this act as "creep skipping" ffs

[[f13]`11411181]

"A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about."

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

[leka`_]

Here is a little something I made for you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrDAjsBUoog&list=
94-76
In their favor
They won most team fights,they didn't deserve to lose
But they did lose,not because they played worse,they only lost because I AND I ALONE used a cheap,broken,totally unbalanced method to win the game

Hell,they even noticed me(probably Gunblade at the river) and came to kill me - and they didn't make it in time
I also didn't use Geometer after Restoration Orb

You said that Polly with those items can backdoor in 5 secs before the enemy team realises and tp's there. That was more than 5 s, and if they weren't as bad as you are, they would have won. Backdooring is fullproof only versus noobs, hence you.



Btw. Beowulf "Stop trying to justify a strategy that makes bad players think they are good.". If a bad players wins using a bad strategy you're like bad^2. Go get yourself outta that bracket before you start using "tournament rules" etc.

[[23TF]Nanis23]

You said that Polly with those items can backdoor in 5 secs before the enemy team realises and tp's there. That was more than 5 s, and if they weren't as bad as you are, they would have won. Backdooring is fullproof only versus noobs, hence you.



Btw. Beowulf "Stop trying to justify a strategy that makes bad players think they are good.". If a bad players wins using a bad strategy you're like bad^2. Go get yourself outta that bracket before you start using "tournament rules" etc.

It took longer because I didn't use Geometer twice and I had to deal with Gunblade,as well as dying to Geomancer so the Sol debuff was gone


Also,it seems most people in GD tend to insult and call others "bad" but rather have a good discussion,together with facts and not some stupid out-of-the-ass theorycraft ideas


Backdooring in Midwars can't be countered -that's a fact
Even if all of your team has a Post Haste,it just means you can stop one or two or 13213412 attempts at backdooring,but the enemy team will do a successful backdooring sometime

The only thing that should be debeatable is if it should be allowed or not,as the balance reason of "both teams can do it"

[[AoLv]foul_beast]

"A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about."

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

^indeed this

[Promness]

because it is a strategy.. duh!?

[leka`_]

It took longer because I didn't use Geometer twice and I had to deal with Gunblade,as well as dying to Geomancer so the Sol debuff was gone


Also,it seems most people in GD tend to insult and call others "bad" but rather have a good discussion,together with facts and not some stupid out-of-the-ass theorycraft ideas


Backdooring in Midwars can't be countered -that's a fact
Even if all of your team has a Post Haste,it just means you can stop one or two or 13213412 attempts at backdooring,but the enemy team will do a successful backdooring sometime

The only thing that should be debeatable is if it should be allowed or not,as the balance reason of "both teams can do it"

If the entire GD thinks you're wrong, you're probabbly wrong. I'm not saying GD is full of brainiacs but all of these people have a point. BACKDOORING ISN'T FULLPROOF (EX: GET MORE PEOPLE TO DEFEND). Stupid-out-of-the-ass theorycraft ideas are all coming from EXPERIENCE, because people tried all those things. I don't tend to call people bad because I'm a forum troll, but seeing all your arguments I'd have to say you are bad and IGNORANT. Just lay off this thread, you're obviously wrong, and now you're showing us some replays of you backdooring some people with Down's syndrome. And please don't say "I deserved to win" because you obviously DIDN'T. You couldn't motivate your team to do a 3 man defence 2 man backdoor strategy. It's obvious that you're absent of any leadership skills, HoN skills, social skills, and not to mention your great APM which is probabbly the reason you realise they are backdooring "too late". Get good bro.

[[WSHH]GayCarlWhite]

lol complaining about being backdoored in Mid Wars. You kids serious? It's all ****ing mid.

[Antimodus]

counter to tryhard backdoor attempts is a courier with RoS spamming wards+cwards all over your side of the map, maybe with a hex to delay the bd further. which is, I think we can all agree, so f***ing tryhard that it borders on pathetic. Nobody wants to play midwars like that. it is SUPPOSED to be a "for fun" mode where being a scrub is okay. So the suggestions to make the base more BD resiliant are legit.

[[WSHH]GayCarlWhite]

"Tryhard" The word scrubs use when they want to complain about others playing to win.

[leka`_]

^

If you're not playing to win don't play competitive games.

[[WSHH]GayCarlWhite]

^

If you're not playing to win don't play competitive games.

Exactly. If you aren't playing to win, you're wasting your own time and your opponents time.