Best counter for magebane?
he has insane attack animation for last hitting and almost guaranteed last hits on creeps with mana(archers/warlocks). I usually see people rush lifetube before boots because of his great movespeed coupled with his blink making harrasment less effective than with other heroes . The mana burn can render mana intensive heroes useless early on, like pebbles mora, panda, hammer etc etc.
These are my problems with him.
Please help me with this. i need help on how to stop him from dominating the lane early on, not on how to counter the blink mid/late.<3
if anything they're awesome.These are my problems with him.
why not just play AS him.
If at first you don't succeed, PUT SOME FREAKIN' WARDS DOWN..
Get a fayde on your team. make him gank him all the time..
Or go for setup that dominates mele heroes on lane: Lord salforis, Rampage, CD, Any other ranged hero int support heroes with herasing dmg is also good.. Like plague rider aluna and others..
Also, you want to harass him out of the lane? Pick TB and silhouette. He won't get any CK and if he tries to he either dies or, more likely, takes so much damage he has to blink and run back to base, losing farm and XP.
Just pick anyone who can harass him out of the lane, A hard stunner like WS along with a high damage silencer like EW or bubbles will also tear him apart.
Fayde now get green light against him since they nerfed his mantra. Her shadow will kill mb faster than anyone else.
All stuns and silences are great against mb, fayde is ok if you can insta kill him cause when I play against 1 I have mana battery/psupply charged so I have always mana for blink.
MB has a low hp pool; he is very easy to gank if you have a high damage burster, pebbles/fayde/pyro/ws; etc. etc. The problem happens whereby people leave him alone to farm core items. In lane if he attacks creep; you attack him (raged), don't be afraid to use nukes to weaken him. A magebane will typically go 3 runes of blight or 1 hp pot; if you harass early, he will have to leave lane before he can even get a healthtube.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
Tri lane against him. Pick a lane with a farming ranged carry with some sort of follow up stun, immobilize or silence (FA, Valk, Silhouette, EW, Puppet), a ranged harasser / babysitter with a stun, immobilize or silence (Glacius, Monarch, Nymphora) and the 3rd can be another baby sitter type or a melee stunner (Mag, Behe, Andro), you need at LEAST one guaranteed stun or immobilize so the other 2 can follow up on it. So for example a lane like FA, Mag, Glac the Magebane won't be able to walk into the lane for one CS.
If you only have two players than an Agi ranged like FA, Valk, Puppet etc with 1 guaranteed stunner such as Glacius, Magmus, Behemoth.. it won't shut him down as hard but it will for sure put pressure on him, and if you out play him will net you early kills.
If you are solo queueing and the opponent picks MB, I'd say the best thing to do in retaliation would be to pick either a huge middle ganker that can easily shut him down if you out play him (Deadwood, Fayde, Succubus, Pebbles), or pick a farming carry yourself and out carry him (Puppet owns him hardcore if you are good), or convince your team to pick 5 stuns or push heroes and pub train so he can't farm all game. I personally prefer picking my own carry and just out carrying him by ganking his teammates early or outfarming him, the issue with picking a hero like Fayde is you could go 15-0 to start the game and still lose if your teammates don't do their part. With a hero like Puppet, Valk, Emerald Warden etc you can obliterate them early and it will turn into huge auto attack farm so you can carry from start to end.
Another thing you could do that is a bit risky, is forfeit him his lane and destroy middle/jungle/your short lane, get his teammates so under farmed that his early farm doesn't matter and just pub train from there.
Lastly, always remember in TMM games regardless if playing Magebane or not say to your team "pick stuns" and they usually will pick heroes who can stun and you can coordinate ganks on whatever carry it is that is raping you. If you have a team with Artesia, Madman, Empath, and Accursed it doesn't matter what hero you pick (unless you are much much better than your opponents). Get a line up with Mag, Glac, Andro, Tempest and Magebane or Carry X that is dominating is easy to shut down.
Personally I find MB rather easy to stop in pubs, but I have too much experience playing as / against the hero. Hope this helps a bit.
Last edited by shamsz; 05-27-2012 at 02:42 AM.
Be happy you don't play against his dota equivalent Magina, he got constant 50% magic resistant.
Fayde, besides that, there isn't any. After late game Fayde only becomes just another stunner.
The best way to beat a team with Magebane is beat him before he gets to late game. Which is always not possible with Fayde especially if you lost mid.
This is possible by just getting a team that can push towers very very quickly. Tort and Polly can take down towers like no tomorrow with both of their ultis.
rampage owns mb imo. i always pick tough bruiser str heroes against short lane enemy melee carries.