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I personally think that bloodhunter gets a lot of hate on classic midwars and on the new map. You just need a completely different build. If anyone wants to try it out, I've had a lot of success leveling his degen once at lvl 1 (to help your team net bloodlust), then leveling blood sense over feast till it's lvl 2, then finishing feast. With ghost marchers and codex, along with his blood sense, you have the highest mobility on your team and can jump in and out of the fray quick. Since you can't exactly sit and farm, net some kill and assist gold until you're ready to start carrying.
I just played monarch + sw ( i was sw) with monarch 2nd skill and my 3td i was immortal when they had dev
Nymph and ds are gods in my opinionALWAYS!
Btw why is flint in god tier? Why is everyone banning him and why is he so strong in mid wars? I don't get it...he got nerfed long time ago. We got one aoe spell but that's about it...is it cause of the long range harrasment in the mid lane or what? He's so easy to nuke![]()
Especially your *Average Tier* has a lot of highly underestimated heroes.
And Tempest is not so awesome in MW.
Last edited by Nieve; 05-12-2012 at 03:56 AM.
Tempest and Plague should be considered God-tier. Do you know the implications of deny early on in mid wars? It's a free ****ing winThat coupled with both heroes have ultimates that just wreck teams early on. Cthuluphant should be at least good tier for the same reason, deny coupled with AoE stuns and slow aura.
Revenant should also be considered God tier, you have no idea what his W skill is capable of in midwars if you don't consider him God-tier
Rhapsody is also a complete monster for every team that has magic damage nukes because of her AURA, especially when coupled with Revenant, a well-played Rhapsody should be at least good tier if not God-tier. She also has arguably the best team heal in the game and a God-tier ult for midwars.
And yeah, you don't have Demented in God tier.. just wow.
I have no idea why Panda is considered God-tier in your list :/
There are a lot of other thing's I'd argue but the ones I mentioned were the ones I felt really really stuck out that I just plain completely disagreed with.
Last edited by PrestonLee; 05-12-2012 at 04:02 AM.
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Don't worry guys, Lodestone won't be getting picked up in competitive, your balance forum regulars have assured it in this Lodestone balance thread ;)
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?470528-Lodestone-First-Impressions&p=15618341&viewfull=1#post15618341
am i blind or is there no kraken on that list ? :P (id place him in goodtier)
That is the problem, this new map is a lot different then the old map. Throne, Fountain, and Tower location play a big role. Slower leveling is probably the biggest impact. Less gold for kills and assists then you normally get in old mid wars. And as far as flint goes, he gets an added black mark because since he came out, hes always banned. People dont realize that all the new heroes since him have pseudo blinks that make his long range useless and destroy him in seconds before he can do a thing.
I play blood hunter in mid exactly how I play him in normal games, and it fricken rapes. I build iron shield, steam boots, charged hammer, bruitlizer, frostburn, wingbow, and then trade in my shield for a daemonic. Having Hammer and Bruitilizer alone makes him so good, people just dont get it. His lightning procs heal him, if it kills any creeps or damages any heroes, even if he dont get the last hit. This makes him huge in 5v5 team fights, because with a lil luck or just good timing, you will keep procing to full hp while the enemy team falls one by one.
I strongly disagree. I have had amazing games with tempest, since there is a short respawn timer now. The stun is an obvious given, the meteor is great for harassment all game, plus gets you assists. But if you land a big tempest ult, it is game changing. I got a refresher on him and my team was just dominating them.
Flux is god in midwars, Vindi is at least good - why you think there's so many "no vindi" games. I'd also say Revanant, Pesti, CD and Empath are quite good Midwars heros as well. TDL is deffo no better than NH/Scout.
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Flux is a complete GOD in midwars. How can he be in avarage?
The possibilies with that hero - endless, especially since Magnetic Surge was reworked
you forgot DR is the god tier, is the best hero on this map. Also gunblade is godtier.
DR > Flint > EW > gunblade thats the order in OP heros for that map.
Why is Artesia in god tier? So many creeps around sort of waste her damage.