Hey guys im bored at work so I thought Id make a Mid Wars Tier List. I have played around 15 games of the new mid wars map and countless other mid wars games on the 5v5 map and I believe I do know which heroes are good and which arnt. Leave your opinion and I change the list accordingly.
Also although a hero may be good early game doesn't mean they are god tier as they fade off mid game and do nothing late game, same applys in reverse, some heroes with max items are awesome but its extremely hard for them to get them as they are useless early game.
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Added new Tiers!
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Last edited by Dasherz_; 05-14-2012 at 01:55 AM.
I'm no expert but I can see some problems here, and of course tier lists will always be opinion unless you use actual usage/win stats.
Seems like Cthulu, Kraken and Bubbles should be up, Arach, Salforis, TDL and Para down. Draconis down too probably but I dunno about him.
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Soul reaper is more god tier, I'd move bubbles and rhapsody up to good, drop riftwalker, doctor repulsor down to average. NH and berserker are more average tier
I disagree on many. Especially bloodhunter (belongs much higher due to permahaste), Hammerstorm (belongs higher, his Stun AOE is incredible in this clusterf.uck),Dampeer is trash, Nighthound is pretty good in midwars his cloud is extremely OP in clusterf.uck...
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Revenant needs to move up. Revenant is ridiculous with someone like Pebbles/Gauntlet, it pretty much guarantees you a kill.
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I completely disgree with at least 80% of your list.
Most of the heroes I'd move up/down just 1 tier, but there's a few which are quite drastically out of place, Hammer in 'average' and defiler/dampeer in 'god' tier.
ionno what artesia is doing up there artesia is horrible, also pk codex parasite is just as effective as pk pebbles or any other nuker safer even if you jump in on catapult waves, defiler is bad nymphora is clearly one of the best mana and heal makes you so much more viable early on, arach is bad, web doesn't stack with orbs much better orbs ult is bad in a game where the team can just cc down the spider, salf is bad in general, lego mytar pestilance are all great mid wars heroes, valk is actually pretty bad her dmg is avg and her arrows without someone like dev to follow up hook the arrows are pointless just end up being harass damage rarely leads to follow up, andro tundra are also great heroes
too much wrong with that list...
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I played a game with War Beast and maxed his global dmg buff first. It is actually very helpful in teamfights early on.
Puppet is a very good mid wars hero. His disables make it so none of the other team can move up at all without getting killed, and he scales well with items.
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saw the post and had to laugh.. dude you have no idea
even after the fix its total crap.. putting arachna, nomad, predator and madman in the same tier with pyro, magmus, pebbles, nymph etc.. and saying rhapsody, bombadier and FA are even worse.. pff
eems like you haven't played any midwars at all..
Sorry to say but the way this mid wars map is set up, several of those heroes are out of place. Due to map placement, and slow leveling, carry heroes pretty much get owned 90% of the games, while stun based, and big aoe ult heroes rule the map. For example:
Flint Beastwood: I have not seen this hero do a damn thing in the new mid wars map. People rush pick him if hes not auto banned, and they fail horribly. Its because he cant level or farm at all. These games have been ending after 15-20 mins, and everyones still like level 14. He has no hope in this mode.
Armadon is the same way, he simply does not have the time to farm up items enough to be a super tank. Any hero in normal mode that takes 30+ minutes to be effective, is next to useless in this mid wars map. Things are going to be this way unless they amp up the experience gain in this mode. Which I am really hoping for.
Armadon's problem for Mid Wars is that you're guaranteed to charge the hell out of at least four opponents' mana batteries (sometimes one person starts RotT so they have to wait a little to grab one) right from the beginning..
No support is even close to as amazing as nymph is, maxed pod lets your team stay in lane forever and 1 level of mana + arcane ring is pretty much infinite mana, she also has a great stun.
Best carries imo are valk and aluna, pretty much god tier heroes from 0:00 to the end
Defiler is definetly god tier on the new mid wars map. Defiler was bad on the old map. HUGE nuke HUGE silence HUGE push. Her level 16 ultimate can take down the throne with a sols on -armour alone. Play her before you say otherwise.
Dampeer could be in GOODTier, its just everygame ive seen he absolutely wrecks teams as he doesnt need much farm to be effective and collects essences easily on kill streaks.
Arachna is in the spot shes in because the slow early game gets you alot of kills via 10-15 more auto attacks from the slow and also she becomes a beast late game.
SR is a good hero but only worth taking hea and stats with ulti until later levels as you wont get mana from inhuman and the aura is pretty negligable until very late game as fights are short and fast.
Pred is great early and even better late he can get in your face without taking damage just dont max his lifesteal first.
Flint is still a god on this map great nuke early game and another nuke at 6. Easily get the lasts hit LONG range late game and cse nough to perm stun that half the hero pool and keep there spell animation from going off.
I agree with puppet Im not sure why I put him in average he should be in Good Tier.
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Rev mightbe ok for those combos but hes not much use for anything else imo. He also falls off late game and most good matches of mid wars I have counter wards down so invis combos wouldnt work very well. Ill move him up if more people think so.
Hammer should be in Good Tier. My bad
Tdl is a beast with the charge ulti silence combo. Also takes down towers fast with little items. Also good escape.
Nymph while good early falls of ALOT mid game and does not much at all late game. unless ou have ellflower hex frostfeild but even then a flint with bkb still own you.
War beast obviously the beststrat would be to max the damage increase its just that all he can do is auto attack and yes if your team managed to carry you t late game and you managed to get assists and kills along the way you would be a beast but I think heres with nukes and stuns are better than +44 damage.
Btw im basing my opinions on easily over 100 games of mid wars on the 5v5 map and mabye 15 or so on the new map.
Ive got a few accoutns all between 1700-1800