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    Mesmerize & True Strike

    When playing succ, how do you use this spell?

    I get flamed so much for putting some team-mate to sleep who would hit the target I originally mesmerized. I make a point of telling them in the beginning of the game to NOT hit just like I tell them not to hit accursed when he's glowing blue but call it bad play skills or the rush of the moment people are seen making that mistake and I get flamed.

    The only match I recall where my team-mates did a good job was when I was with a Deadwood and Dev, I would sleep someone allowing Dev to hook easily or DW to grasp and then punch...maybe a heartache by me to seal the deal...but that was it. Is that all what Mesmerize does? Set up targets? I sometimes use it to escape as well.

    Anddddd last night I noticed Arachna's aura gives True Strike....sooo why do we see so many ppl get Savage on her? Generally after Geo, Helm of Victim and maybe Assassin, I've seen ppl building Savage. Worth it?

    Even I did. But now I'm thinking of grabbing Rift or Wingbow...maybe upgrade the Helm to Symbol or get Shroud and then Genjuro. Worth it?

  2. #2
    Concerning Arachna, the true strike is new and only in there since 4 weeks or so.

    Concerning Mesmerize, Succubus is one of my favourite heroes and Mesmerize is just an awesome skill. Its main use is disabling an enemy during a fight for a whopping 7 seconds. Use it on a ranged enemy or support that is standing outside the fight so your teammates won't attack him. Succubus can disable 3 heroes in a fight, which is very powerful.
    However, Mesmerize has several other uses, from setting up ganks to denying yourself. Generally people should look out not to right-click like mad with a Succubus on team, but you should also be careful when Mesmerizing during a fight. When your carry gets the debuff, take it from him.

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    u dont get savage on arachna for the truestrike, u get it for a great damage boost that ISNT an attack modifier cause u allready have one and u will grab Lifesteal in lategame.
    Normal build for me is geo, savage, Dominator -> Symbol of Rage

    and y, it can be pain with succu in pubs without communication. Even my mates dont really get it with mesmerize... derp, so i dont pick her often. Mostly aim for a target that is no firsttaget (tank is best, an arma that is 7 sec out of fight is completely useless, the prob is that noobs tend to attack targets that stay in front so it happens often here that they mesme themself), or u can wait with it for an interrupt of a channel that will come, or to help a support who is getting chased down by some tanky stuff + "add alot of possible situations here". Just dont use it on carrys and also not on combo spellcasters who allready cast cause u just help them to not get focused while the cds went down till they are ready again. And take care of it while chasing someone, it may help him more than u.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Sultur View Post
    u dont get savage on arachna for the truestrike, u get it for a great damage boost that ISNT an attack modifier cause u allready have one and u will grab Lifesteal in lategame.
    Normal build for me is geo, savage, Dominator -> Symbol of Rage
    Why not get Wingbow then?

    U get a big agi boost and that means more damage, more attack speed and more armor.

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    Why not get Wingbow then?

    U get a big agi boost and that means more damage, more attack speed and more armor
    Its also a possible choice, i dont say that savage is a musthave. But Savage has an more easy buildup, is slightly cheaper and has overall the better gold for damage exchange. At all I would prefer wingbow only if i can make great use of the evasion, that means the real prob in the enemy lineup are autoattackers who wont get an savage.

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    Well the thing is, mermerize is for setting up ganks, I remember this particular game when EG was playing against another strong competative team and Korok pickes succubus for the first time.
    He dominated so hard with succubus by using mesmerize and gave his allies enough time to port in and gave valk a free 5 second arrow.
    This hero is all about communication and ganking, don't sidelane her and don't use mesmerize in teamfights AT ALL. Just before, or after.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Uroefl View Post
    Well the thing is, mermerize is for setting up ganks, I remember this particular game when EG was playing against another strong competative team and Korok pickes succubus for the first time.
    He dominated so hard with succubus by using mesmerize and gave his allies enough time to port in and gave valk a free 5 second arrow.
    This hero is all about communication and ganking, don't sidelane her and don't use mesmerize in teamfights AT ALL. Just before, or after.
    I've gone mid with her a few times but she can only hold her own against casters...atleast thats what I feel.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by punktastic View Post
    I've gone mid with her a few times but she can only hold her own against casters...atleast thats what I feel.
    Actually she's one if not the strongest mid hero in the game, highest int base damage besides puppet master.
    A rune control ability, free harrass if you have chalice, free hp too, and an awesome animation + great ganking potential.
    just watch a replay of how Korok played her.

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